X-Message-Number: 10028
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 10:42:12 -0700
From: Fred Chamberlain <>

From:     Fred Chamberlain <>
Subject:  Cryonics Motivations and Acceptance of Technologies
Date:       July 10, 1998

In >Message #10022,  "Scott Badger" <> says:

> They won't sign up until it works, but by the time it
> works, they won't need to.  Bottom line. . .few recruits.

If Scott Badger, at that time, should have a malfunction in a reentry glide
vehicle and impact the ground at something in excess of Mach 3, his
auto-neuropreservation system might handily remove his head and flashfreeze
it, but he would probably miss the party that night.  However, all other
things working out for the positive, he might be back at work two weeks
later, with nothing more in the way of cost (besides the two weeks lost)
than a slight increase in his insurance premiums.

On the other hand, if Scott Badger should hurtle off a cliff in a car now
and be brought to an emergency room, and live long enough to wonder if
cryonics might have worked, wondering about it might be the last thought he
would ever entertain!

In >Message #10023, George Smith <> observes:

> You will have your "scientific" authoritative endorsements 
> AFTER cryonics has brought back to life suspended human 
> beings.  None of those brought back will be the current
> authority figures, for those lock-step group-think panderers 
> to the status quo of their "scientism" guilds will have all died
> years before.  Those who survive will be those who were
> moved to TAKE THE RISK.  

The authorities will endorse perfected suspended animation when enough
hospitals are using it so that the insurance carriers have to include it as
a "medical benefit."  They will despair, however, that those placed into
"perfected vitrification" will ever be recovered.  This, they will say, is
"pure charlitanism,"  and that the only thing worse is "ordinary cryonics!"

Later, still other authorities will endorse the earlier use of "perfected
vitrification" when (and if) the modest repairs necessary to restore those
suspendees to life have been demonstrated to work in a sufficient number of
cases.  Those who were saved in this way will probably have been quite
wealthy, and no importance will be attached to the fact that their trusts
paid the very large fees required for their reanimations.  These later
authorities will dispute the possibility that any "ordinary cryonics"
patients will ever be recovered.  "Even if they could be," they will say,
"who would pay for it?"

Time will pass.  Authorities will come and go.

Now, supposing that those who received the "best" cryonics treatments could
be reanimated, those who had set aside large trust accounts or made similar
arrangements (perhaps by way of "LifePacts") would be "back on the street"
first.  The techniques developed to recover those who received "perfected
vitrification" would necessarily have been vastly extended.  Would there be
memory losses?  Perhaps!  Would they be large, or small?  We cannot
presently say!  Would the people thus recovered be happy to be alive?  Why
not?  (Unless they were placed in suspension by their relatives with no
forewarning, in which case the relatives had better "be there" to explain
it to them.)

Even the authorities of this day will despair that those with more damage
than the "best suspended" will ever be recovered.  As they are proved to be
in error (supposing that this is the case) other authorities will state
that only a small percentage of those who frozen will ever be returned to
life, for economic reasons.  As recovery costs drop and rehabilitation
programs are shown to be economically feasible on a self supporting basis,
the authorities and critics will finally have to dispense with cryonics and
busy themselves with disputing the possibilities of virtual reality,
uploading, faster than light travel, prevailing cosmological theories, the
social projections of the day, economic theories of the future of the solar
system, and so forth.

Pessemistic authorities and other critics, as a class, are probably
immortal.  If it were not for them, we would lose the pleasure of seeing
them proven wrong.  They were surely among us long before the "flat earth"
theory was in vogue, and no doubt will be with us in disputing whether or
not the universe will ever come to an end, until it actually does (if ever!)

Fred Chamberlain, President/CEO ()
Alcor Life Extension Foundation
7895 E. Acoma Dr., Suite 110, Scottsdale AZ 85260-6916
Phone (602) 922-9013  (800) 367-2228   FAX (602) 922-9027

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