X-Message-Number: 10045 From: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:26:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Gambling Let me try one last time, very briefly. Everything is an issue of gambling. Certainty is not possible in advance. My point about the "face on Mars" was simply this: it was a worthwhile gamble because of the potential payoff. (1) Yes, the evidence gathered SO FAR seemed to indicate little likelihood of life on Mars. (2) Yet there was the visual evidence which LOOKED LIKE an artifical monument. (3) As there was already a photographic mission going into orbit the gamble seemed worth it. Compare this gamble with cryonics. It seems a worthwhile gamble of my time and money for the potential payoff: survival. (1) Yes, the evidence on cryonics gathered SO FAR seems to indicate little likelihood of life after death via cryonics. (2) Yet there is the evidence that makes cryonic suspension LOOK LIKE a means to halting the progress of biological death. (3) As there already exist cryonics groups providing freezing capabilities, the gamble seems worth it. For those who OMNISCIENTLY KNOW IN ADVANCE that the face on Mars COULDN'T be artificial, I ask you to remember that you are GAMBLING based on limited information. The same for those who claim to OMNISCIENTLY KNOW IN ADVANCE that cryonics CAN'T be successful. This, too, is a GAMBLE based on limited information. Please note the parallels. Probability theory remains valid. The only debate regards how much are you willing to gamble - whether you think the odds should ALWAYS determine whether you should take any chance. I think it would have been ridiculous to NOT look. I'm glad that we spent the money on that gamble. The payoff would have been enormous and the probablities were uncertain. I also spend money on the cryonics gamble. I see no difference. -George Smith Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=10045