X-Message-Number: 10093
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:18:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Hitman <>
Subject:  A few more responses.

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> Message #10086
> From: Drew Skyfyre <>
> Brett has hit one big nail on the head. The lack of faith in current
> cryonic suspensions.

This isn't really my problem.  I believe that those suspended today with
the best available methods will be revivied.  I just feel that it is
unlikely that I would recieve the best methods available.

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> Message #10087
> From: Thomas Donaldson <>
> To Brett Corlett:
> First of all, not all people of your age die in accidents (I won't 
> discuss here the fact that death may not be sudden and there may be
> time for a good suspension even in case of accidents --- that seems
> clear but at the same time I do not have any statistics to back it
> up).
> I've observed an interesting (and unpleasant) thing happen to people
> about the age of 30. Sure, they're young and can expect lots more
> years of life. BUT they discover that they have some condition or 
> other which (if it does nothing else, and it may do much more) impairs
> their ability to get life insurance. Like: they discover they have
> a tendency toward diabetes, and it's slowly getting worse. Or many
> other conditions. They may even learn that their relatives have
> gotten Huntington's Disease, an inherited condition which appears
> in middle age.

Just a note about this, in my case anyway I wont be learning anything
about inherited conditions as I am adaopted with no interest in finding
out.  On a side note does anyony out there know if that would effect
insurance premiums?

> While I don't know how well off you are economically, you will probably
> be able to make good money once you graduate. And this says to me
> that ASAP you should get life insurance. Don't delay.

I kind of covered this in my previous post but I have said all along that
once I graduate and am employed I will be doing just that.
> And just to be depressive, even older people can die in circumstances
> which make a good suspension difficult. An instance would be a sudden
> heart attack. For what it's worth, Alcor has worked hard on finding
> ways to get to people as soon as possible. Not only that, but they've
> made progress --- not that there isn't even more to do.
This is a good point but doesn't really have anything to do with me, 
I live in Ottawa Ontario Canada.  From even Michigan were the closest 
service provider is it would be an 8 hour plus drive or a few hour 
plane ride as direct international service out of our airport is severly
limited meaning flying into Toronto and switching planes or driving up
which is still 4 1/2 hours away.  Also I am not to sure about (maybe Mr.
Best can answer this) present acceptance of the cryonics option in
Canadian hospitals and how they deal with the request.

> I'd say that the way to regard cryonics, particularly now, is as a 
> means to rescue you when it is possible to do so. You don't really know
> when and how you may become seriously ill and die. Some subset of those
> cases (and we're all working on making that subset as large as we
> ccan!) will be that in which you can be given a good suspension. And
> rather than simply decide that you're most likely to die in difficult
> conditions, you might think about arrangements which would allow rapid
> suspension (or increase its probability) in cases you might think at
> first don't allow. Then we'll all benefit.

This is true, and I'd like to say I am not trying to be pessimistic, but
pragmatic.  When you have limited resources you have to use them as best
you can.  Lastly I'd like to thank everyone for their responses.  

Brett Corlett

Faculty of Engineering, Carleton University
Suspension and Steering Team Leader, Formula SAE

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