X-Message-Number: 10093 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:18:02 -0400 (EDT) From: The Hitman <> Subject: A few more responses. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message #10086 > From: Drew Skyfyre <> > <snip> > Brett has hit one big nail on the head. The lack of faith in current > cryonic suspensions. This isn't really my problem. I believe that those suspended today with the best available methods will be revivied. I just feel that it is unlikely that I would recieve the best methods available. <snip> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message #10087 > From: Thomas Donaldson <> > > To Brett Corlett: > First of all, not all people of your age die in accidents (I won't > discuss here the fact that death may not be sudden and there may be > time for a good suspension even in case of accidents --- that seems > clear but at the same time I do not have any statistics to back it > up). > > I've observed an interesting (and unpleasant) thing happen to people > about the age of 30. Sure, they're young and can expect lots more > years of life. BUT they discover that they have some condition or > other which (if it does nothing else, and it may do much more) impairs > their ability to get life insurance. Like: they discover they have > a tendency toward diabetes, and it's slowly getting worse. Or many > other conditions. They may even learn that their relatives have > gotten Huntington's Disease, an inherited condition which appears > in middle age. Just a note about this, in my case anyway I wont be learning anything about inherited conditions as I am adaopted with no interest in finding out. On a side note does anyony out there know if that would effect insurance premiums? > > While I don't know how well off you are economically, you will probably > be able to make good money once you graduate. And this says to me > that ASAP you should get life insurance. Don't delay. I kind of covered this in my previous post but I have said all along that once I graduate and am employed I will be doing just that. > > And just to be depressive, even older people can die in circumstances > which make a good suspension difficult. An instance would be a sudden > heart attack. For what it's worth, Alcor has worked hard on finding > ways to get to people as soon as possible. Not only that, but they've > made progress --- not that there isn't even more to do. > This is a good point but doesn't really have anything to do with me, I live in Ottawa Ontario Canada. From even Michigan were the closest service provider is it would be an 8 hour plus drive or a few hour plane ride as direct international service out of our airport is severly limited meaning flying into Toronto and switching planes or driving up which is still 4 1/2 hours away. Also I am not to sure about (maybe Mr. Best can answer this) present acceptance of the cryonics option in Canadian hospitals and how they deal with the request. > I'd say that the way to regard cryonics, particularly now, is as a > means to rescue you when it is possible to do so. You don't really know > when and how you may become seriously ill and die. Some subset of those > cases (and we're all working on making that subset as large as we > ccan!) will be that in which you can be given a good suspension. And > rather than simply decide that you're most likely to die in difficult > conditions, you might think about arrangements which would allow rapid > suspension (or increase its probability) in cases you might think at > first don't allow. Then we'll all benefit. > This is true, and I'd like to say I am not trying to be pessimistic, but pragmatic. When you have limited resources you have to use them as best you can. Lastly I'd like to thank everyone for their responses. ------------------------------------------------ Brett Corlett Faculty of Engineering, Carleton University Suspension and Steering Team Leader, Formula SAE Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=10093