X-Message-Number: 10142 From: Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:28:35 EDT Subject: what you ought to do John de Rivaz (#10135) looks at the question of "what one ought to do" (e.g. whether to try to live longer) from the standpoint of whether someone else should use coercion or pressure of some kind. This is a separate question from the one I considered, viz., what the individual "ought" to do from his own perspective, based on information and reason. Thomas Donaldson (#1036) said my views were "simplistic." Perhaps one could get that impression from the snippets on Cryonet. Actually, the topic is exceedingly complex and subtle--perhaps more so than Thomas realizes. I am trying to deal with it at book length, and if I can scrape up enough hours from the bottom of the barrel maybe I can finish it this year or next. Brook Norton (#10138) has it exactly right (to the extent that a short statement in this area can be "right"). The only rational approach for anyone is to try to maximize personal satisfaction over future time, appropriately weighted. The hedonists, epicureans, and utilitarians all started out pretty much on track, but were soon widely discredited--simply because they were unable to follow through or develop their ideas in a practical way or resolve the apparent inconsistencies. They lacked the technical tools now available and becoming available. We can do better. Robert Ettinger Cryonics Institute Immortalist Society http://www.cryonics.org Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=10142