X-Message-Number: 10258 From: Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:51:29 EDT Subject: promotion Chris Fideli (#10255) writes: >anyone who looks closely enough will barely find a collective pulse running through a movement that claims to love life so much they want to make it last forever (that and a level of self-humor that scores in the range of Albanian communists). >But this isn't what bothers me. If, as many have argued, this sluggish pace is actually the best option available for cryonicists to ensure they get safe passage, then it is the one we want. What bothers me is a serious lack of interest in debating this issue. It seems as if anyone who questions the inherent wisdom in current cryonic political strategy is beneath consideration. >Perhaps the message in this is that we're barking up the wrong tree - no one's going to change their minds, so we should stop trying to stimulate intelligent discourse on this point. This would be a dissapointing conclusion, but it sems to be where we're at. ------------ Mr. (?) Fideli seems to be saying that Cryonics organizations are not trying to do any marketing, for fear of arousing adverse reactions. Where does he get this impression, and what does he suggest we do that we are not doing? As far as I know, almost all of the organizations are doing everything they know how to do, and can afford to do, to promote cryonics and life extension and to recruit new members. Certainly that is true of us at CI. If he is suggesting that we are too tentative and tactful in our promotional material, too sparing of the feelings of the unenlightened, again, specifically what changes or improvements does he recommend? George Smith recently said that we have not adequately recognized or exploited the possibilities in emotional approaches and personal salesmanship, that in effect we rely too much on cold logic. There is some truth in that--although anyone who has read Rudy Matic's article, about the suspension of his mother, in the last issue of THE IMMORTALIST will surely agree that emotional chords have been sounded. But our problem as usual is the practical implementation; we are working on it, but it isn't easy. Advice is welcome, and HELP (work or money) even more welcome. P.S. Those who say philosophy doesn't belong on Cryonet have forgotten the immortal words of Rene de Skunk: "I stink, therefore I am." Robert Ettinger Cryonics Institute Immortalist Society http://www.cryonics.org Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=10258