X-Message-Number: 10356 From: Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 19:19:17 EDT Subject: cryonics as religion CRYONICS AS RELIGION Endless volumes have been written about the material vs. the spiritual outlook, science vs. religion, and both cryonics vs. religion and cryonics as religion. Here's another attempt to review a portion of the discussion, and possibly improve our outreach. It's necessary always to touch a few bases first. (1) We don't want to offend religious people gratuitously, in part because a substantial minority of immortalists are religious, and also for the obvious reason that we don't want to antagonize the national and world majority, who are at least nominally religious. (2) We recognize with due humility that large numbers of religious people are at least equal to the best of immortalists/cryonicists in general intelligence and in most of the human virtues. (3) We deny the existence of a necessary dichotomy between immortalism and the major religions, and note that in fact representatives of most of the major religions and denominations have expressed tolerance for cryonics, as well as for medical technology generally. That said, I believe that nevertheless, without hypocrisy, we can offer--to those who need or want it--an immortalist/cryonicist viewpoint that might allow substitution of immortalism for conventional religion. ABSOLUTION, REDEMPTION, HEREAFTER Some immortalists/cryonicists/self-centrists have decided to construct their own religion, and the Church of Venturism (now called the Society for Venturism) has that formal status. Can they really steal the thunder of conventional religions? What they need to do is supply fellowship, dedication (ultimate concern), and some form of symbolism/liturgy. The latter isn't too difficult, in principle. We don't have to use potentially embarrassing language. All kinds of political and social organizations use formal occasions with pomp and ceremony to set the tone and lift the spirits. There was an emotional or "spiritual" quality in the ceremony dedicating a new building in 1992 for Trans Time Inc., a cryonics firm. We need only do this kind of thing with more regularity and deliberation. This would, to a large extent, constitute the emotional motivation that David Pizer and Mike Perry have proposed to supply. A religion is free to make dogmatic assertions without objective evidence. But in fact all religions try to have it both ways: they offer slogans, symbols, and total assurance, along with a few alleged "proofs" (such as the miracles of Mahmud), while their intellectuals grind out endless weighty tomes of fine- spun philosophy for those who like to chew on air. In almost a mirror-image way, political and social movements may claim to base themselves on logic and evidence, but the effective motivators for the membership are the comradeship, the zealotry, the chants and marches and gatherings and flag-waving, the snake-dancing and hymn-singing. It's just something to do, and something to share, and something to feel good about. None of this demands any nominal reference to religion. All the foregoing is simplified, of course, and does not do justice to the intricate variety of banners and religions and the web of emotions to which they appeal. But it is useful, and we are leading up to key comparisons between immortalism/cryonics and conventional religion. The awesome power of Christianity seems to derive largely from the concepts of absolution, redemption, and the hereafter. In Roman Catholicism, if I understand it correctly, the priest confers absolution--forgiving the wicked even on the death-bed, even a Mafioso after a lifetime of vicious sins. In some of the Protestant denominations, the individual simply accepts Jesus with a whole heart and true repentance, and is transformed by God's grace into a state of purity. "Redemption" is a complex concept, overlapping that of absolution but with the emphasis more on salvation or rescue in a general sense. (A key part is the fairly strange notion of the "blood of the lamb"--God himself, as the Son, washes away the sins of Christians with His own blood, i.e. redemption of the guilty by the sacrifice of the innocent.) The "hereafter" of course is often seen as a divided highway, one branch leading to the Celestial City and another elsewhere (carrot and stick). These are powerful pressures and inducements, for some--yet immortalism & cryonics can come close to matching them, and for some people can do so with much more credibility. For cryonic suspension resuscitees, we offer (although without guarantees) the heart-swelling prospect of absolution, redemption, and a hereafter in a unique and materialist way. For with endless time and limitless growth, we see that, if our vision is realized-- NO ERROR IS IRREDEEMABLE. EVERY AFFLICTION CAN BE CURED. EVERY FAILURE CAN BE CORRECTED. EVERY TRAGEDY CAN BE OUTGROWN AND LEFT BEHIND. We will no longer be the victims of our heredity; our minds and bodies will be improved, over and over again, while retaining our continuity and individuality. Every mistake will be corrected, if not by literal reversal, then by changes in conditions, or perspective, or substitution of new goals. Cripples will throw away their crutches (or their hearing aids or bifocals or pacemakers or insulin needles or wheelchairs); the blind will see and the deaf will hear and the dumb will speak and the retarded will mature and the withered or bent will stand tall. And all of us will come to terms with our past failures and leave them behind, going on to shared glories. Is not such a vision religion enough? Immortalism welcomes you. Whatever your past, whatever your sins, whatever your afflictions, whatever your failures, whatever your shortcomings, whatever your despair--we offer absolution, redemption, and new life--life without limit. Now all we need is some golden-glottis preachers. Robert Ettinger Cryonics Institute Immortalist Society http://www.cryonics.org Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=10356