X-Message-Number: 10523 From: "Thomas Nord" <> Subject: CO2, Y2K and Cryonics Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 23:14:06 +0200 Cryonics has its own problems I as a customer like to see solved. Promotion seem to be one. Are there no rich and/or more famous = interested to spread the message? May it be contraproductive to spread it to much risking a ban as in France etc? In time I will sell this idea more, of the simple choice to rot burn or get frozen. Perhaps help to improve an European org. for those who = doesnt wish to be moved to US. A normal burial are very depressing, Cryonics a lot less I guess. CO2 Related to Cryonics? I do not wish to be in a dewar, in a climate-change "force majeure" with no attention. Most of us will be alive over "Y2K" to attend that matter, the dewars will be in no harm of an outage. Eternal life is no fantasy anymore, to stay alive without Cryonics as we know. But until then, if we die, we may have to wait frozen. Thats = where CO2 comes in for me if I'm in a dewar when the problems hit, we must try to avoid before. Alcor moved out of Ca due to earthquake-risks as far as I know. In US you are more used to migration over the large nation than us here. = Without any secure information that we all can die in a climate-disaster, I stay on the consensus from the known experts today, = it will all get much worse for a long time, as you might have seen some examples of in US this year, partly due to the Greenhouse-effect. These = are wellknown facts and nothing to debate on an eco-net, as we have everywhere. We know its getting warmer, good up here, not so good in = Texas it seems. Az next? Michigan may get better in the winter, or much colder, nobody knows yet. The heat dissolves greenhousegases and the water making more clouds. Real-estate and economy will fall in the unfortunate areas due to migration. To foresee problems as Alcor did is good, nobody can prevent an earthquake. With wisdom we might be able and lucky in avoiding a worse = disaster. Not in a gloomy bunch, the world politicians are already taking this on for real. These are no secrets. It may be useful for us and Cryonics org's to consider if the best is to shut up in this matter in relation to Cryonics, or promoting the = struggle to avoid a disaster. If the future world are more unsecure, perhaps less will pay for a place in a dewar. Or if we can say, this is not only a money matter to put you in a dewar (as some think), we think of the future promoting efforts to halt = a disaster, to get back alive and wanted. This is hard to gain votes on since it includes stop burning gasoline oil gas and coal. We are on the track, but people must be more aware what they risk with wrong burning. Very simple hard and true. Swedish is my mother tongue, english my first foreign and German my second. A letter to politicians home-addresses are good, if you can get it, to avoid the secretarial-filter. Best if they get it on a Friday to reed = over the weekend. I've done it here successfully in decades. Thomas Nord Human Universal Service HUS foundation Non profit org. Est. 1988. Egnahemsv. 59 SE-14137 Huddinge (Sweden) Tel/fax +468 7115635 Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=10523