X-Message-Number: 10567 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:52:59 -0700 From: Brian Manning Delaney <> Subject: Re: CryoNet #10557 - #10561 References: <> Ben Best wrote: > On Thu, 09 Oct 1998, Doug Skrecky wrote: [....] >> Additional comment from the poster: [....] >> The medical >> establishment's recommendations to lose weight in >> whose who are judged to be overweight is thus >> shown to be misguided. Sloth, not fatness kills. > Although CryoNet does not seem like an > appropriate forum for this debate, I would > rather not see these comments pass without reply. [Very sound response by Ben snipped.] Ben, Thanks for taking the time to correct the impression Doug may have given with his post. When I've taken the time to correct Doug's mistakes, I've tried to reach the numerous fora in which he sends copies of his posts. You may not wish to do so, of course, but if you do, note that he also posts copies to , , Sci.life-extension, Misc.health.alternative, Alt.support.diet, and often other newsgroups. He may post elsewhere, too. (In the case of this post, I and others posted responses on Usenet, so that's taken care of.) One small point: > Animal experiments are not subject to so many > covert variables as human experiments, and > animal experiments on hundreds of species have > shown that 30-50% calorie restriction with > adequate nutrition results in 30-50% extended > lifespan. I think this is just a simple mistake, and that you mean "hundreds of studies" on many species. Yes? The number of species on which CR has been attempted is probably 10-20 (though maybe you're counting different strains of rodents as different species -- even then I don't think the number would be hundreds). Anyway, thanks for the good response. If someone out there actually knows Doug personally, s/he might consider: 1) Asking Doug to mention in his posts where else they're being posted, so that people who want to respond can reach the same audience Doug does. 2) Encourage him to have someone review his posts before he sends them out to such a wide audience. It's wonderful that the life-extension community has someone like Doug, who's willing to put so much energy into distributing Medline abstracts, occasionally reading and commenting on articles, etc. It would be good if that energy could be used in a more careful manner. I'd hate to see people start stuffing themselves because they think it's not bad for them. Brian. -- Brian Manning Delaney <> (No need to CC articles to me.) Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=10567