X-Message-Number: 10712
From: "Olaf Henny" <>
Subject: Re: CryoNet #10700 - Gun Control
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:01:38 -0800

Re: Message #10700 From Brian D Williams 
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:41:44 -0800 (PST)

Subject::  Gun Control

From: "Thomas Nord" <>

>>This is a bit far out from Cryonics but related, since we better
>>live in US as near as possible to an Cryonics facility I am told,
>>due to the time-factor with better chances.
>You are correct, this does not belong on cryonet, but since you
>insist on posting it here, I will respond.

Although on the face of it gun control has very little to do with cryonics
 for those of us living outside of the US the question of weighing 
improved access to cryonics and consequent improvement in our 
chances of revival is a serious concern, which should be part of the 
discussion in this forum.

>Don't believe what you see on U.S. media about guns, every major
>U.S. media outlet is antigun. As you said statistics don't lie,
>look up the lott papers from the University of Chicago, in the U.S.
>guns PREVENT over 2 million serious crimes a year. Everyplace
>concealed carry laws are passed, the crime rate drops. The reason
>tourists were targeted in Florida a few years ago was that after
>passing concealed carry laws, criminals began attacking tourists
>because they were easily identified as the only group not carrying

Fact: we are in Canada culturally very closely related to the US.  We 
eat basically the same food, see the same TV shows with the same 
amount of violence, share the same telephone system, heck you can
 hardly tell the difference between the two countries, -  with one 
exception: We have a different constitution.  Ours does not include 
the "Right To Bear Arms"

Fact: The murder rate in Canada is 1/3rd of that in the US.  This
 proportion also bears out, when cities of similar size are compared. 
 - Still nothing to brag about, when compared with western European 

>Gun related crime, including handguns, is rising steadily in the
>U.K., Canada, and Japan, despite being banned.

Fact: The murder rate in Canada was last year the lowest in thirty years.  
While I am not aware of a breakdown by murder weapon, this hardly 
leaves a whole lot of room for increases in gun related killings.

>>Sometimes I feel a need to have one against bad guys too, but cant
>>without hardeffort to get a license after a year or more, if not
>>a rifle for hunting faster.

>At least we in the U.S, still have a choice.




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