X-Message-Number: 10897 From: Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 12:45:24 EST Subject: virtual money All of those recently commenting on the role of money in the future have their points, and most of them recognize that the reality may be outside our current ability to guess. However (unless I missed it) nobody has recently mentioned the role of virtual money. In the relatively near future, as Mr. Smith has noted, very likely everyone will have his own thinking/actuating machine (partly integrated into his own nervous system), capable of providing nearly all important goods and services--even though there may remain some societal/market forces as applied e.g. to scarce real estate and self defense. (In MAN INTO SUPERMAN I speculated that, at this stage, individuals or families may be very nearly autonomous.) But we still (will) have to look at the basics underlying satisfaction and dissatisfaction, and the means of dealing with them. As far as we know now, EVERYTHING that concerns you DIRECTLY happens inside your own head. That doesn't mean you can ignore the outside world, or other people, for many obvious reasons; but it does mean that satisfaction/dissatisfaction is at bottom a matter of optimizing the signals in your brain. Enter virtual reality and virtual money. If you want to experience the satisfactions of owning Mars, and competition doesn't permit your sole literal ownership, you could still obtain most or perhaps all of the satisfaction by arranging for appropriate signal input, possibly (just one possibility) by trades with someone on the spot. This again reminds us of another of Mr. Smith's suggestions--that, at least in some situations, instead of money we have barter, or social intercourse equivalent to barter, e.g. your conversation for mine, or your thoughts for mine, or your experiences for mine. Some aspects of this could also be called "friendship." This would require no exchange of paper or credits; the "accounts" would be kept in rough form in each individual's developing mental history. If someone doesn't think he is getting enough out of it, he just stops doing it; or if he likes it enough, he tries to get more by asking or offering more. If "uploading" ever proves feasible (I am skeptical) then of course we have virtual money with a vengeance, since all of "reality" will be in some sense virtual, more so than now--certainly more manipulable. Now the matter of scaring or boring potential immortalists/cryonicists by this type of speculation. Very few people are comfortable with, let alone motivated by, the prospect of a radically different future. It turns them off either by its remoteness or by its strangeness and "inhumanity." So what do we do? One recourse is just to say that the future is coming, like it or not, and it is indeed going to be drastically different. You can choose life, and try to make the best and most of it--trying in particular to appreciate the unprecedented opportunities and rewards--or you can shut your eyes and turn off your brain and find oblivion. A better recourse, perhaps, is to note (as Donaldson has often said) that there will not be just one future, but many. It is unlikely that any advanced person or society will be motivated to attempt to impose rigid doctrines on individuals, except the minimum required for mutual safety. Those who prefer a future much like the present, with longer life and better health and more wealth and fewer annoyances, will probably be able to enjoy that for as long as they choose. Potential fellow travelers: Please don't close off your options just because you dislike or can't comprehend some of the possible futures. YOUR future, to a substantial extent, is for you to build--or to forfeit. Robert Ettinger Cryonics Institute Immortalist Society http://www.cryonics.org Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=10897