X-Message-Number: 11188 From: Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:19:07 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: #11185 Those missing ETs Robert Heinlein in discussing science fiction once pointed out a graph showing an upward curve from the present to the past and then several possible projected continuations in regard to future trends in general. Most were soon to flatten out based on the inability of most of us to expect truly radical changes from our present condition. Common also was the 45 degree flat- line projection upward from the present ("The stock market will rise forever." "Real estate prices will rise forever.") But there was also that almost vertical hockey stick projection. In this century we use radio waves for communication long distance (I'm including TV and the rest here). So SETI looks for radio wave ET communications. Yet it just might be that in the next few years we will discover that there actually IS a way to "send" information instantaneously through the mechanism of Bell's Theorum and Aspect's experiments. OR... some other mechanism that is non-local (FTL) supplants EM wave communications. Then SETI will realize that radio would almost certainly NOT be used by any truly advanced ETs. Similarly, we walk about in flesh bodies with mental personalities and naturaly enough project that this is likely to be what will continue to be used by ETs "out there". Yet there have already been numerous suggestions for alternate futures for humans wherein these forms and patterns give way to other forms and patterns radically different - some even lacking physical form in the sense we think of it now. Such nonsense! What ridiculousness! Yet we are left with the seeming "absence" of ETs. Perhaps we are simply blind to what is in front of us and the (probably) infinite universe is devoid of ANY OTHER "intelligent" life (I am not yet certain that the human species meets that definition). Perhaps we are simply projecting our current state forward. But if the hockey stick includes radical change for us, might not that explain the "others". The ETs may simply view our current primitive state of carbon-bound bodies with low RAM minds as being indistinguishable from flatworms. Just a thought. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=11188