X-Message-Number: 11413 From: Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 21:12:56 EST Subject: Re: Cryonics Trust Option 3.12 To: John Bull and others interested in wealth preservation/ cryonics trust choices From: Rudi Hoffman, cryonics signee and student of wealth development Re: Request for input on cryonics trust e-mail for Immortalist zine Dear John, etc. Thank you for your inquiry. Yes, I want to write about the two best possibilities for the cryonics trust at the current state of our knowledge. Or my knowledge, anyway. First, I refer everyone to the last "Cryonics" magazine, (hard copy, not web based) and the excellent article by Bill Falloon re: the trust he and Saul Kent have in place. I am in process of trying to reach them about about different possibilities of funding and using the trust they already have in place. I am especially interested if one can have this trust as a partial beneficary on a life insurance policy. On a completely alternate track, the rest of this posting deals with the "Passport Financial Protective Trust" Let me share with you what I am continuing to check out as a "Cryonics and Wealth Protection Trust." There is an offshore trust/ corporation package available from Terry Coxen and his associates. It costs $145 bucks to get the actual trust application and package, which I have in my hands as I am writing this. It costs ZERO to check out their web site, but I ordered the physical trust application documents to review. (There is a no risk refund offer, but I have kept the package because it is exactly what the promo and website promised.) The package is professionally produced, and shows the reasons that many people have "offshore trusts." This particular one is based in Bermuda. It takes 1250 dollars to set up, and can be funded with as little as $5000 initially, with the hopes that this amount will grow to $50,000 in a reasonable period of time. Rather than doing anything less than a thorough job of explaining what this trust allegedly can do for you, I think the best thing is for people to go their website and view the possibilities for themselves. Here it is: www.PassportTrust.com Their toll free number is 1-800-531-5142. When I called to order the trust kit some time ago I spoke with a very knowledgeable and helpful gentlemen by the name of John Chandler. Mr. Chandler and I spoke at some length regarding the concept of a cryonics trust, and how this "passport trust" may be serviceable as a vehicle for funding reanimation and/ or being much wealthier upon reanimation. Although Mr. Chandler was not initially aware of the cryonics option, he was very interested in the concept. He was also rather encouraging regarding how this offshore trust could be used for the purpose of accumulating and protecting wealth from government confiscation, both before and after "death." He is going to bring this up to Terry Coxen, whose book, "Keep What You Earn" is included in the package. Terry is a bright guy...I am still reading his book. He has also aligned himself with some other luminaries in the field of investments, newsletter writing and asset protection. These "bigwigs" on the cover promotional for this trust package include Doug Casey Adrian Day Harry Brown (Libertarian US presidential candidate 1996 and 2000...I voted for him last time and I will vote for him again!) John Pugsley These gentlemen are serious, "non-flakey" business professionals, whose careers I have been following through their writings for decades. Please do not confuse this offshore trust with the many "off the wall" constitutional trusts, and "tax protesting patriot" trusts that I have seen offered throughout the years that I have been searching. These trusts, which are based in "constitutional law, not statutory law" look like major lawsuit and hassle attractors. There is enough controversy in cryonics and funding our future for ourselves with a direct adversarial position against potential heirs to our cash and life insurance proceeds. Let us not add to this by having a trust document that is less than solid and proven in multiple tax court rulings. This offshore trust seems solid, with many of my questions asked and answered in a straightforward Q and A in the promo literature and also on the website. Now, the big question: Can this trust be set up and then later funded with life insurance? This will allow people to fund their trusts with pennies on the dollar! Just like we can currently fund our cryonic suspension affordably with life insurance for just pennies on the dollar. (I own 1.15 plus million dollars of life insurance on my life. It is a combination of term and permanent insurance that costs me less than 400 per month, for over a MILLION dollar tax free estate!!) I therefore encourage people to check this website out on their own. Make your own judgment, and get advice from your attorney, CPA, or dogcatcher. Perhaps we can have these twin dreams work: A reanimation in a wide open future with an enormous amount of money to enjoy the best the future holds! End copy cc Brian Shock at ALCOR cc to Cryonet, if i can figure how to do this Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=11413