X-Message-Number: 11444 From: Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 22:21:32 EST Subject: more in sorrow than in anger? Thanks to Steve Bridge for the Open Directory Project information and his role in it as editor for cryobiology and cryonics. Looks interesting and useful. I haven't had time to look at much of it yet, but have seen the site of Ingo Heschel of the Helmholtz Institute for Biomedical Engineering, "Cryobiology Aachen." (His counter showed 3 visitors--maybe because of the reshuffle of URLs that Steve mentioned.) One of his pages is titled "BODYFREEZING." (This is all in English--German also available.) He lists "some of the reasons" why "I hope that you do not believe in body freezing (any more)!" I won't bother listing his reasons, which are well known, but will list two reasons why "I hope you do not believe in the scientific integrity of Ingo Heschel and his ilk (any more)." 1. He lays out reasons that a complex organism supposedly cannot be cryopreserved and revived, but ignores the fact that some pretty complex organisms, including insects, actually have been cryopreserved and revived. 2. He totally ignores any possibilities of repair by future technology, which is a major premise of cryonics. More in sorrow than in anger? More in anger, I think. But only a vestigial anger; thanks to the Web, the dinosaurs of cryobiology will soon be almost entirely irrelevant--except as occasionally, inadvertently, they happen to contribute to the success of what they detest and denounce. Robert Ettinger Cryonics Institute Immortalist Society http://www.cryonics.org Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=11444