X-Message-Number: 11489
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 12:10:55 +0100
From:  (John de Rivaz)
Subject: Re: for those who are not yet ready to cryosuspend, and ethics

In article: <> xon tiffany 
<> writes:
> For those who are not yet ready to cryosuspend their
> bodies upon deanimation, is there a less expensive
> alternative available, namely to at least have a
> sample of their bodily tissues, probably it would be
> a blood sample, frozen so that at least the DNA could
> be preserved, until one is ready to finance full-body
> or brain-only suspension? in this way, at least one
> could be cloned at some future date. 

What would be the point of this? Such a clone would have no continuity of 
consciousness with the orignal. It would not even behave like the original 
as it would be brought up in a different age by different "parents". 

You may as well have a child.

A better option may be to pre-arrange a permafrost burial. But probably the 
best thing you could do would be to start a savings program. If you can save 
the $28k required by the Cryonics Institute, then you can have a pre-paid or 
trust funded cryopreservation with little hassle. If you decide later that 
cryonics is not for you, then you will have some savings around to use for 
something else. I would recommend saving into a mutual fund based upon 
technology, because the technological growth that is required to reanimate 
cryopreserved individuals is not in current stock prices. If technology, and 
your investment, fails, then you will not be there to observe the results. 
The only results you can observe are technology growth and consequent 
success of your investment.

In article: <> <> 
(Jeffrey Soreff) writes:
> Just to clarify a bit:  I have no personal argument with either
> Leon Dean or Garry Wright, since neither of them wishes to interfere
> with cryonics (and Mr. Dean intends to use it, and Mr. Wright wishes
> the movement well).  I only have an argument with someone like
> Gov. Richard Lamm, who insisted that everyone has "a duty to die".

What's he governor of, a concentration camp? :-)


If some terrorist machine gunned his family, would he applaud the terrorist in 
assisting them with their duty? The man must be a lunatic if he really said 
everyone has "a duty to die" - why is he allowed to remain in public office?

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