X-Message-Number: 11580 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:40:06 +0100 From: (John de Rivaz) Subject: more on suicide and lawsuits relating to it In article: <> Thomas Donaldson <> writes: more on suicide and lawsuits relating to it > About suicide: > Any political attempt (ie. writing to officials etc) is unlikely to > prevent an autopsy. As far as one particular person is concerned, of course you are right. But if a general pressure can be put on officals so that they are uncomfortable with what they are doing, in the long term changes could occur. I must say that as far as I am concerned, if it were feasible to make anyone that autopsied me roast in hell for all eternity I should be only too pleased to arrange it :-) In fact I would go further as to include all his friends and relations, especially the cute defenceless ones :-) Not to make even a futile gesture is "axe kneeling". At present the amount of pressure cyronicists could put is minimal. But there are religions that oppose autopsy, and the mechnics of it are like the final scene in the film "Braveheart". Some people in Scotland claim this film has given an enormous boost to Scottish Nationalism. If general pressure against autopsy could be produced by raising an awareness amongst those with religious objections, then it would help cryonics. Think how campaigns against abortion and vivisection must have driven many people from relevant professions. Once the fire of a similar campaign has been lit, it would gather a momentum of its own and the more drastic acts need not be performed by cryonicists. But humans being what they are, these acts will get performed. I have written many times before that cryonicists cannot themselves do anything questionable, or even hire anyone else to do questionable things. But merely working up human anger against a practise such as autopsy is a democratic act protected by the right to free speech, I should have thought. If there is no foundation for such anger, then one is merely ranting, but if one can "rant" amongst people where there is such a foundation, then it is no longer ranting but delivering a stirring "speech". -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz Homepage: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JohndeR Longevity Report: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Sauna/3748/lr.htm Fractal Report: http://www.longevb.demon.co.uk/fr.htm PCS - a Singles listing sheet for people in Cornwall http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JohndeR/pcs.htm Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=11580