X-Message-Number: 11610
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:49:46 -0400
From: Bozzonetti <>
Subject: R. Ettinger on quantum mechanics

Answer to message #11604 from R. Ettinger on Q.M.

> I have been doing further reading in QUANTICS, by Jean-Marc  

>Levy-Leblond and Francoise Balibar (North-Holland, 1990, translated from


>French by S. Twareque Ali). They speak of "fundamental quantons" such as

>photons or electrons and "phenomenological quantons" such as phonons,  

>polarons, magnons, and rotons; they point out that these two types can  

>interact, e.g. neutrons scattered by phonons; they say very explicitly

>the quantum theory in all its generality applies as much to

>quantons as to fundamental quantons; and they say finally: > >"A quanton
which appears as fundamental to us, such as an electron, could in  

>fact be an 'elementary excitation'  of some yet unknown underlying

>sort of a modern aether.  


Modern theories assume particles are indeed excitation of super symetric
quantum strings. Strings are the special one dimensional case of
p-dimensional branes. p-branes are a subclass of supersymetric matrix, the
next step is the infinite set of prime numbers finite groups. I don't know
if there is a classical world between each step.  

>Now another thought occurs to me, somewhat belatedly, and very likely it

isn't novel either: Could phonons--or other "quantons" emergent from  

classical processes--be used for quantum computation?  

Yes, they can.  

> If so, it might have some practical importance, and would also tend to
throw >cold water on the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics. 


> If necessary, I will try to investigate the details myself; but I hope
someone >better qualified will either do it or tell me why it can't be

Don't count too much on the last possibility. If you have some spare time,
don't wait for other to do it. I wait for 30 years now about antibunching

8-waves interferometers and I see nothing on the horizon:-)  

Yvan Bozzonetti.  

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