X-Message-Number: 11854 Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 11:06:59 +0100 From: (John de Rivaz) Subject: life extension regimens In article: <> writes: > Message #11825 > Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:39:08 EDT > Subject: life extension regimens > > Doug Skrecky and others have commented on the burgeoning of anti-aging > studies and interest in them, and of course many readers of CryoNet have > been personally involved, at least as consumers, for a long time. But > while many books have been published, including Thomas Donaldson's book > with update, and while there is an anti-aging newsgroup, it remains (as > far as I can tell) frustratingly difficult to filter out clear, concise, > and reliable information. > > The Life Extension Foundation (Kent and Faloon et al) publishes a magazine > with a lot of information, including abstracts; but its commercial nature > makes it of uncertain completeness and balance. To be fair they have been known to comment when one of their products fails to meets its expectations. http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag99/mar99-awsi.html finds such a report. Here is an excerpt: >>>>>>> Life Extension Foundation members were informed four years ago that shark cartilage was ineffective in treating cancer. We obtained this information by conducting a survey in early 1995 on people who had purchased shark cartilage from us. <<<<<<< This sort of thing gives the members faith in their integruity. No one can be perfect and nothing can be totally safe. I would agree that the commercial appearance of Life Extension Report (LER) does not win friends amongst the professionals, but if it were left to professionals as a group everyone would do their duty and die of old age. If LER were a pithy professional style journal, how many would pick it up at the newsagents or even read it if they had subscribed? I would also agree that books with titles like "The Miracle of............" don't inspire scientific confidence, but one must remember that publishers have a duty to their writers and shareholders to sell as many books as possible, and it is clearly titles like these that sell. If you want one good book on this subject, then try: Encyclopaedia of Nutritional Supplements by Michael Murray http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0761504109/immortalistsocie/ It's not a "safe" book which only talks about the nutritional medicine that nutritionists all agree on (in which case it would be pamphlet). It's a big fat book with a zillion references by a big honcho naturopath who really thinks he can influence some diseases by giving big doses of various nutrients. He gives his reasoning and references and lets you decide. Very useful. Give me a big fat well-referenced book full of guesses any day, over a thin and tepid yawner of a thing full of information about how much folate you kill by boiling your carrots too long, and how you might need an extra milligram or two of B6 if you take birth control pills. (Steve Harris, MD) Dr Harris wrote this after he criticised Pearson and Shaw's Life Extension. I asked him what one book on life extension by nutrition he would recommend. (del) > We would like to make available to members of the Cryonics Institute and the > Immortalist Society, and readers of The Immortalist and of our web site, > among others, a source of information ... (del) > if possible (1) a summary of the best current advice, with BOTH > concise recommendations or opinions, negative as > well as positive (with suitable disclaimers), and also literature > references for those who want verification and more detail; and (2) > answers to questions on a reasonably timely basis. to an extent, one can already get that by searching http://www.lef.org However something more conscise and with a definite "house style" as proposed could be worthwhile, but it would take a lot of time from a well qualified person to do it properly. This would probably have to be paid for which ends us up with the usual commercial restraints. To the requirement, I would also add overdose symptoms. (Like the heading "Safety issues" in Murray's book detailed above.) The other project that would be worthwhile is a book like Murray's with a CD in the back so that you can search it by computer. Many people have said that to publish books on CDs is silly because it is easier to read on paper than on screen - you don't need to lug apparatus around with you. But publishing simultaneously (ie readers get both the book and the CD) may be a sensible option, as an electronic search can be far more thorough than using a dictionary, and is also much better as a memory substitute. Apart from the lawyers' dead hands, a simple solution would be for someone to spend a few days scanning Encyclopaedia of Nutritional Supplements in and distributing the CD. Persuading Dr Murray that it is a worthwhile idea, and that it is worth his time and effort in persuading his publishers that it is a good idea and them and that it is worth their time and effort in persuading their legal department that it is a profitable idea puts this whole concept beyond possibility, in my view. > http://www.cryonics.org -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz Homepage: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JohndeR Longevity Report: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Sauna/3748/lr.htm Fractal Report: http://www.longevb.demon.co.uk/fr.htm PCS - a Singles listing sheet for people in Cornwall http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JohndeR/pcs.htm Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=11854