X-Message-Number: 12020
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:28:06 +0100
From:  (John de Rivaz)
Subject: Re: Betrayal and Abandonment

In article: <> Robin Hanson 
<> writes:
> On 23 Jun 1999 David Pascal wrote:
> >Robin Hanson's message nails that cryonics approach right on the noggin. 
> >That's exactly what we say:  save yourself, and abandon everybody else.  
> >course, it hasn't seemed to work too well these past thirty years.  ...
> >So why don't we ever *say* it? ... But we never say it.  We never say, 
> >"Cryonics is good for others.  It's good, it's right, for society, for 
> >mankind, for the world."  We never say:  "Cryonics is compassion."  We 
> never say:  "We're fighting for others.  Why don't you?"  ...
> I agree with David that this approach has a lot of promise.  I'll only
> caution that "saying" this requires much more than well-phrased web sites
> and phamphlets.  Religious organizations and charities have hundreds of 
> subtle signals that convince recruits they are this sort of caring people. 
> Cryonics organizations, especially given typical personality styles of 
> current members, face a huge challenge in acquiring this sort of image. 

CI suspension member Chrissie Loveday states that it was the caring side of 
cryonics as opposed to the uncaring casting aside of burning and rotting 
that first made her take cryopreservation seriously. Once she had started to 
take it seriously, then she considered the real issues, and last year 
visited Alcor and the Cryonics Institute, where her support of cryonics was 
strengthened by what she saw and the people she met.

More can be found in the article:

Sincerely, John de Rivaz
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