X-Message-Number: 12091
From: Thomas Donaldson <>
Subject: comments for George Smith
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 00:00:13 +1000 (EST)

To George Smith:

The very first point I make about your 8 July message (#12082) is that
we are already far from ignorant on the questions which you seem to think
are still quite open. This does not mean that someone might not come up
with even better suspension methods, for instance; but it does mean
that we have enough to actually do APPLIED research with a high
probability that it will be successful. 

Among the points which need making, Greg Fahy is an established
cryobiologist who has been studying use of vitrification for years, and
slowly making progress. Since he broke with most of the cryobiology
community and now works for 21st Century Medicine, his research has
gone even faster. There is also a research project aimed directly at
finding the best way to preserve human brains; this is funded and guided

Basically, I do not want money now devoted to research to go toward
public relations for cryonics because that research money is likely to
produce advances important to us. And I am not alone.

If you wish I can send you a list of papers and books so that you, too,
can ramp up your knowledge about these issues. I also hope that others
will also reply. One present problem with 21st Century Medicine is 
simply that they're waiting for patents to come through before they
publish the scientific details of what they are doing. But if you buy
and look at the tapes from their conference, you should get a very good
idea of just where we stand in terms of research.

			Best and long long life for everyone,

				Thomas Donaldson

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