X-Message-Number: 12091 From: Thomas Donaldson <> Subject: comments for George Smith Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 00:00:13 +1000 (EST) To George Smith: The very first point I make about your 8 July message (#12082) is that we are already far from ignorant on the questions which you seem to think are still quite open. This does not mean that someone might not come up with even better suspension methods, for instance; but it does mean that we have enough to actually do APPLIED research with a high probability that it will be successful. Among the points which need making, Greg Fahy is an established cryobiologist who has been studying use of vitrification for years, and slowly making progress. Since he broke with most of the cryobiology community and now works for 21st Century Medicine, his research has gone even faster. There is also a research project aimed directly at finding the best way to preserve human brains; this is funded and guided by CRYONICISTS. Basically, I do not want money now devoted to research to go toward public relations for cryonics because that research money is likely to produce advances important to us. And I am not alone. If you wish I can send you a list of papers and books so that you, too, can ramp up your knowledge about these issues. I also hope that others will also reply. One present problem with 21st Century Medicine is simply that they're waiting for patents to come through before they publish the scientific details of what they are doing. But if you buy and look at the tapes from their conference, you should get a very good idea of just where we stand in terms of research. Best and long long life for everyone, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=12091