X-Message-Number: 12206
From: "John de Rivaz" <>
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Subject: Re: Relatives' affidavits
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:28:45 +0100

I am seriously concerned that getting relatives' affidavits to "allow"
cryopreservation puts ideas into their minds that they could kill
cryopreservable patients for money, group acceptance or self esteem acting
entirely within the law.

In addition, I understand that in the United States affidavits are signed by
the parties going to lawyers offices to be sworn in or "notarised". Trying
to make a relative do this is like saying "I don't trust you and I want you
to go to all this trouble to prove to me that you are honest and not a
liar." This seems to me hardly the way to win friends and influence people,
even allowing for different cultural attitudes to lawyers in another

I am sure that if someone wanted me to go to a lawyers offices to sign a
paper saying that I'll promise not to interfere with anyone burning them
when current medical science has declared them "dead" I'd tell them to piss
off - but their beliefs in cremation may in fact be just as strongly held as
my feelings about cryopreservation.

Sincerely, John de Rivaz
my homepage links to Longevity Report, Fractal Report, my singles club for
people in Cornwall, music, Inventors' report, an autobio and various other
projects:       http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JohndeR

----- Original Message -----
> From: david pizer <>
> Subject: Re: CryoNet #12192 - #12196
> And of course, most (if not all) cryonics organizations will allow people
> to sign up with out any of their relatives supporting affidavits.
> it is sometimes considered best if the cryonics memeber can get supporting
> affidavits.  Because sometimes when a cryoncist has died, the relatives
> will try to keep the cryonicist from being suspended.

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