X-Message-Number: 1248 Newsgroups: sci.cryonics From: (Peter Alexander Merel) Subject: New Scientist article, 26 September Message-ID: <> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 03:06:41 GMT I don't know how many folk here have seen this article, but it should be readily available so I'll refrain from extensive quotes. The basic gist is that cryonicists are ignoring the established biological facts, or fantasizing about something called nanotechnology, which is rhetorically dubbed "science fiction". The article covers the basic facts about Alcor, describes Thomas Donaldson's situation, and gives a treatment of the cryonicist mindset, but salts that liberally with zero-sum and lunatic fringe themes. If finishes by suggesting that cryonic suspension is " ... an unusual and expensive way of disposing of dead bodies". It seems that Schatzman did interview people at Trans-time and Alcor, and faithfully transcribed some of their literature. The fact that he gets some of this information out is probably useful. Unfortunately the emphasis he gives to tissue degradation and the lack of information about nanotech make the article counterproductive - folk who read it should find cryonics more difficult to accept than folk who do not. And, yes, he trots out the 'hamburger into beef' thing. Phrases like that are too tempting for a journo to pass up. I've always like the letter analogy, but 'hamburger into beef' is snappier than that. Cryonics is crying out for a little political phrase like that. It is probably worth writing a reply to Schatzman - a few hundred letters won't make that big a dent in New Scientist's editorial opinion, but if we save one benighted letter column browser then it would be worth it. The life you save may save your own. Hey, that ain't bad. Not as good as hamburger into beef, but not bad ... Um, how about "shit into shinola" ... Nah ... "Rage, rage againt the dying of the light" ... too arty farty ... "I am the resurrection and the light" ... now that's catchy. I give it a seven. You can dance to it. -- Internet: UUCP: {uunet,mcvax}!munnari!cssc-syd!pete Snail: 1/18-20 Orion Road, Lane Cove NSW 2066 Australia Phone: +61 2 911 3130 Theftright Peter A. Merel (T) 1992. Rights to all replies, followups, originals, sources and anything else I can get my hands on reserved. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=1248