X-Message-Number: 12483
From: "Robert Moore" <>
Subject: I just want to live!
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:06:09 PDT

I am relatively new to cryonics.  I thank Mike Darwin and others for 
bringing up the subject of suspension protocols.  I would like to reduce the 
discussion(oversimplify, probably)to the consumer point of view:

I am a consumer who has decided to buy the product, cryonics.  I must now 
decide which organization(s) to buy from.  I believe that my future revival 
is strongly dependent on

1) the condition of my brain just prior to suspension
2) the quality of the suspension process
3) the integrity of storage
4) the quality of the revival process

I can't control 4) the revival process.  So in making my choice I want to 
evaluate the organizations' post-"death" response system, their suspension 
protocol, and their storage arrangements.  I  feel I can effectively compare 
the response systems and storage systems.

Evaluation of the suspension protocols is more difficult.  Some cryonics 
organizations seem to publish little information about their suspension 
protocol.  What is published is often sketchy or vague. Then finally, I 
would probably need education in cryobiology with a specialty in human 
cryosuspension to effectively compare the methods.

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My questions are

1) Has anybody done any independent comparison/analysis of suspension
methods?  (I am not looking for sales literature, rather the "Consumer
Reports" version).

2) For Mike Darwin:  I couldn't seem to find any specific recommendations in 
your posts.  If you were "dying" today, would you have yourself suspended? 
What suspension protocol would you request?  What organization would you 
have do the suspension?  Please help.
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I don't want to start any arguments here -- I just want live!  Whether
chances of my future revival are 50% or .001% it is still better than 0% (I 
know the most important thing is to get signed up with some organization), 
but I want to improve the odds as much as possible.


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Apologies and Disclaimers:  1) I apologize in advance for any toes stepped 
on or for opening any old wounds.  2) I apologize for restating the obvious. 
3) I am not as naive as my questions -- I understand it is difficult or 
impossible to evaluate the effectiveness of suspension protocols prior to 
seeing revival results.  I have been following the Cryonet discussions for 
nearly a year now, and I know that suspension procedures are an extreme
focus of the cryonics community.  However, I think an attempt to answer the 
question today from a consumer point of view would be educational (and 
perhaps helpful for cryonics recruitment).

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