X-Message-Number: 12596 From: Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:54:51 EDT Subject: another physician frozen Cryonics Institute has placed another patient (#31) in cryostasis. The patient was a physician (M.D.) who had practiced as a specialist in kidney disease. It was another emergency case. Most of those are lost, because of the usual bad circumstances combined with the lack of full information by the family. In this case, however, it was a little different. The patient had expressed his intention of being frozen, but like so many others had not actually made preparations. When he died, the family had enough information and presence of mind to instruct the hospital personnel to apply ice immediately, which was done. Then they called Alcor, whose people referred them to us. Thank you, Alcor. The problem in such cases is to somehow avoid undue delay and deterioration, while still allowing the family time to reach an informed decision. In this case, the location happened to be one where CI already had a mortuary trained and equipped. I therefore suggested that the family might have the local mortuary do washout and perfusion immediately, cool the patient to dry ice temperature, and then there would be a window of a few weeks during which deterioration would probably be minor, and the family could do their research and counseling. If the final decision were negative, a relatively minor amount of money would be lost. This was done, and the patient was washed out and perfused hours later, after having been iced since death, and then cooled with dry ice. At least one other physician is a patient, one of Alcor's. So while the numbers are too small to have much statistical significance, I repeat that physicians are represented in cryonics in numbers much greater than one would expect on a population-proportionate basis. In terms of members the number is at least nine to one, and in terms of patients roughly twelve to one. Robert Ettinger Cryonics Institute Immortalist Society http://www.cryonics.org Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=12596