X-Message-Number: 12750 From: Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 22:10:05 EST Subject: Investing, Skrecky Doug Skrecky (#12740) misinterpreted my post, and the suggestions of John de Rivaz, about funding your cryostasis through investments. With the best of intentions, he also is mistaken in some of his ideas about the markets and his apparent guesses about our people. 1. No one advocates "gambling on short term fads." Technology is not a short term fad. If you think it is, then forget about cryonics. 2. Whether prudence demands "diversification" and avoidance of "sector" investing is a long story, and depends on definitions and context. Everyone agrees, for example, that in the long term equities beat bonds; yet in special situations and for short periods the reverse may be true. Someone who takes "diversification" to extremes will include the kitchen sink and waste most of his opportunities. 3. The notion that the markets are "efficient" is laughable and was never taken seriously by real investors. In the first place, if markets were anywhere near efficient, you could just throw darts and it wouldn't matter. No one can possibly imagine the markets are efficient if he watches them at all. Many stocks jump around like crazy for no good reason, often just a reaction to some individual's public comment. This doesn't mean investing or trading is easy, but it does mean markets are inefficient. >There is a strong temptation for some non-professional investors to > over-estimate their own stock picking abilities I don't know if Doug was referring here to CI people or just to prospective novice investors. "Professional" does not necessarily mean "successful" or even "competent," but on the CI Board of Directors are two licensed stock brokers, as well as other people with extensive investment and trading experience. But my post, on which Doug was commenting, and the suggestions of John de Rivaz, did not relate primarily to CI investments, but to the prospective private, individual investments of members or prospective members hoping to accumulate money to fund a suspension. Nor did my post relate to stock picking (individual equities). As for Doug's suggestion that we buy the journals he mentioned, I hope he will forgive a chuckle. Academics (with the usual exceptions) are notoriously poor in the actual markets. ("Those who can, do; those who can't, teach; and those who can't teach, teach teachers".) One of the biggest fund debacles this last year was managed by two Nobel laureate economists! Once more: John's suggestion was that, to accumulate enough to fund a suspension in relatively short order, one could invest periodically in an open-end tech fund with a good long term record, or else in a closed-end tech or mostly-tech index fund such as QQQ or XLK. This has worked well for many years (although QQQ and XLK formally are relatively new funds), and shows every indication of continuing to do so. And of course you can always make a change if circumstances warrant. (While building your account, use declining term life insurance to cover contingencies.) As to the actual mechanics of choosing the legal vehicle for pledging the funds to your cryonics organization, we will have an extended report probably within the next couple of weeks. (I have already mentioned one or two options currently available, including the CI Revocable Living Trust, which can be used in conjunction with a brokerage account; more details will be forthcoming.) Robert Ettinger Cryonics Institute Immortalist Society http://www.cryonics.org Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=12750