X-Message-Number: 12766 From: Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:19:47 EST Subject: feelings of survivors Marty Kardon (#12763) asks about "closure" and the emotional states of survivors of cryostasis patients over the years. No detailed survey has been made of this, and so far we only have personal impressions, plus second-hand impressions of people we know. For myself, I have two close relatives in cryostasis. I am VERY glad it was done, and have high hopes for the long term future. There has been "closure" in the sense that they are no longer in my day-to-day thoughts, although they certainly have a background presence which occasionally emerges to the fore. The lack of finality for me is positive, not negative. The psychology of death has many strange elements. For example, many people actually make decisions based on "what (s)he would have wanted." Obviously, nothing you do or don't do matters in the least to someone who is buried and decayed and non-existent. "Loyalty" to a destroyed person is just a neurosis or a means of maintaining your own illusions, living in make-believe. It's a small sample, but for those survivors with whom I have had an opportunity to speak from time to time, the cryonics choice is overwhelmingly positive. It doesn't prevent a sense of loss or pain, of course, but it certainly mitigates it, and this effect persists over time, and perhaps even increases. Robert Ettinger Cryonics Institute Immortalist Society http://www.cryonics.org Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=12766