X-Message-Number: 12899 From: Thomas Donaldson <> Subject: Re: CryoNet #12897 Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 00:35:34 +1100 (EST) Hi to everyone! This is my reply to Ettinger. Yes, a community for cryonicists would be nice, but many cryonicists would also think of it as too ambitious for now. Furthermore, it's far from obvious to me that a NORMAL hospice would serve our purposes. They're trying to get the people who live there to adjust to their coming death while they also care for them. A cryonics hospice would be different. The facilities for suspension would be within easy reach, and so far as the patient is conscious he can be asked questions (and ask questions) which may relate to how he is to be treated in the future --- not to mention that once he's in the hospice, there is no serious problem likely to arise with his suspension. As for the questions, he's there to clear up any uncertainty or lack of specification in his suspension papers, too. And he'll know that he is staying with cryonicists and being cared for by cryonicists, something which may be important. I do want to state, too, that a community would be nice, too. But I'm bringing up the hospice idea specifically because it looks to me to be more reachable in the near future than a general community. So far, for instance, those cryonicists who have grown old have NOT gathered together with others, but instead try to maintain their old routines as much as possible. Sure, a big enough community would start to draw people in; but then how do we get to such a community in the first place. As I understand it, Dave has already attempted such a thing on his own. It didn't seem to work. A hospice just might. Best wishes and long long life to all, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=12899