X-Message-Number: 13008 From: "Rodolfo G. Goya" <> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 04:34:28 -0300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0108_01BF5023.A96F8A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: death or cryonic suspension as a way to escape suffering Hi everybody. The comments that I read in Cryonet about the concept of death advantage fallacy (DAF) brought to me some reflections which I would like to share with you. Faced with the prospect of continuous (and intolerable) suffering one could consider two options to end this situation: irreversible death or life suspension. Indeed, neither of these options assures, in a 100%, the end of suffering. The first one, might take the sufferer to some kind of hellish afterlife, even more painful than the previous one. To nonbelievers like me, this possibility seems remote, but who knows. Life suspension would offer the possibility of interrupting the suffering until future technology could restore the suspendee to a pain-free life. Here, however, there are also potential risks. One, which as a biologist I also consider remote, is that suffering might continue in the suspended patient. The second kind of risk, which in my opinion appears as less remote, is that one wakes up in a hitlerian-type of future where the revived patients are enslaved or used as guinea pigs or submitted to some other kind of unworthy life. If we additionally imagine that in this technologically advanced evil world we would no longer have the freedom to terminate our lives, the scenario becomes really dreadful. Long life to all. Rodolfo (Rudy) G. Goya, fax: (54-221)425-0924 or 425-8988 direct phone: (54-221) 425-6735 e-mail: or ------=_NextPart_000_0108_01BF5023.A96F8A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <META content='"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=GENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=#000000>Subject: death or cryonic suspension as a way to escape suffering</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000>Hi everybody. The comments that I read in Cryonet about the concept of death advantage fallacy (DAF) brought to me some reflections which I would like to share with you.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000>Faced with the prospect of continuous (and intolerable) suffering one could consider two options to end this situation: irreversible death or life suspension. Indeed, neither of these options assures, in a 100%, the end of suffering. The first one, might take the sufferer to some kind of hellish afterlife, even more painful than the previous one. To nonbelievers like me, this possibility seems remote, but who knows.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000>Life suspension would offer the possibility of interrupting the suffering until future technology could restore the suspendee to a pain-free life. Here, however, there are also potential risks. One, which as a biologist I also consider remote, is that suffering might continue in the suspended patient. The second kind of risk, which in my opinion appears as less remote, is that one wakes up in a hitlerian-type of future where the revived patients are enslaved or used as guinea pigs or submitted to some other kind of unworthy life. If we additionally imagine that in this technologically advanced evil world we would no longer have the freedom to terminate our lives, the scenario becomes really dreadful. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000>Long life to all.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000><BR>Rodolfo (Rudy) G. Goya,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000>fax: (54-221)425-0924 or 425-8988<BR>direct phone: (54-221) 425-6735<BR>e-mail: <A href="mailto:"></A> or <A href="mailto:"></A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000></FONT> </DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0108_01BF5023.A96F8A00-- Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=13008