X-Message-Number: 1303 Newsgroups: sci.cryonics From: (Timothy Freeman) Subject: Re: Stiff Rat/Lives Message-ID: <> References: <> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:03:43 GMT In article <> writes: I recently saw a program, I think on PBS program, discussing the liquification of natural gas, for transport to Korea from Alaska. They had very interesting segment in the program, that described experiments in cryogenic experiment. Camera's rolling, they dropped a mouse in Liquid natural gas (Poof Instant Stiff!) they then pulled him out and dropped him in warm water. Then with no apparent disorientation, the animal slid out of their hands and jumped off the table. I've seen someone put their arm in liquid nitrogen up to the forearm and stir it around for a few seconds with no ill effects. He said he had put his bare arm in past the elbow as he was fishing around for a dropped tool in a dewar. Apparently heat flows slowly from liquefied gasses into warm flesh, probably because the liquid boils before it touches the flesh, and gasses generally insulate fairly well. (Don't try this at home, and don't try it at all if you are wearing metal rings, a wristwatch, you have a wet hand, you have clothes on your arm that could get soaked with Liquid Nitrogen, or in general you don't know what you're doing. If you do it anyway, don't sue me. :-) Did you see that the rat was stiff, or are you assuming it was stiff? Even if you saw it was stiff, body parts get stiff long before they freeze, so I suspect the rat was never frozen. -- Tim Freeman <> CompuServe ID 71045,2267 checked occasionally. When they took the fourth amendment, I was silent because I don't deal drugs. When they took the sixth amendment, I kept quiet because I know I'm innocent. When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I don't own a gun. Now they've come for the first amendment, and I can't say anything at all. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=1303