X-Message-Number: 13037 Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 16:24:51 -0700 From: Mike Perry <> Subject: Consciousness of Lobotomy Patients George Smith, #13029 comments >I am reminded of the early fifties when psychiatrists were commonly >performing lobotomies which seemed to help patients. Later it was realized >that the patients with lobotomies were incapable of learning anything new, >such as being able to tie one's shoelaces with a knot that went over instead >of under. The word "zombie" was recently used here on the Cryonet regarding >what I would term "non-conscious personality duplications", such as we see >in lobotomy patients. > If by this you mean lobotomy patients were not conscious, I disagree. Apparently they had a version of Korsakoff's syndrome--inability to form new memories. But this doesn't preclude consciousness. Mike Perry Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=13037