X-Message-Number: 13110
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:52:30 -0500
From: david pizer <>
Subject: Re: CryoNet #13100 - #13105

>Message #13101
>From: Daniel Ust <>
>Subject: Cryopreserving the unborn?
>Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:50:04 -0500
>(Note: I sent this to the Extropy list over the weekend.)
>I don't know if anyone has thought of this before, but how about getting
>Right to Life individuals to support abortion by cryopreserving aborted
>fetuses?  Surely, cryopreserving them would be cheaper.  If we can get them
>to fund this sort of thing, it would be a way to both spread cryonics and
>defuse a very deep conflict in Western societies.
>Perhaps we could analyze this problem from two angles.  One would be
>technical feasability.  The other is whether Right to Life groups would be
>willing to support-financially, politically, or morally-this option.
>What do you think?
>Daniel Ust
>http://mars.superlink.net/neptune/ <http://mars.superlink.net/neptune/> 

I proposed this  14 years ago in 1986.  The Immortalist ran my article in
June called FREEZE ABORTED BABIES.  I also included it in a book of poems
and short articles I self published called GOODBY DOUBTER (page 20).  I
also proposed that the Venturist Organization do something in this area.

There never was any meaningful response to the idea.  My audience was
strictly cryoncists who are worried about saving themselves  (That is a
pretty big challange on its own in these early days of cryonics).  At the
end of the article I asked if anyone wanted to help persue the idea and try
to take it to a non-cryoncs audience (like Right-To-Life-ers, or hospitals
or abortion clinics). 

I still think it is a very good idea to try to save these aborted people.
If you manage to get several more interested person who are willing to
contribute some money and labor let me know and I will help out.  However,
I still think we are thinking too far ahead of the rest of the world.  If
you don't get any support either, try me back in another 14 years, when we
might be able to get more help from the rest of the world.


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