X-Message-Number: 13167 From: "John de Rivaz" <> References: <> Subject: Re: Comparing Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:42:33 -0000 With regards to financial considerations, the problem is if you have a wife and family you may wish to cryopreserve, or indeed could have one in the future. People close to you could become infected with your enthusiasm for cryopreservation, yet if you can only afford to cryopreserve yourself and not help anyone else you will feel bad if a significant other is annihilated and you do not help. Also, suppose those around you get jealous because you are going and they are not? It seems unlikely at the moment, when even if cryonics were free most people would still reject it. But it would only take one or two people in your immediate circle to get jealous and if you perished wonder "why the b** hell you should have had it when they can't afford it" and be uncooperative or at worst obstructive. People can get cantankerous and objectionable at the end of their lives - look at the rising divorce rate in the over 70s, for example. You may not be a loveable person when you die. There is no point (except revenge and encouraging others not to interfere with cryopreservations) in relying on "the law" and lawyers to enforce contracts. Cryonics has to be performed immediately - a body frozen solid in a funeral parlour for ten years of legal wrangling may as well be chucked out in the dry permafrost near Mr Erebus, Antarctica, as be perfused and cryopreserved. I see the main value in an Alcor suspension is that if you live near one of their facilities you will get cryopreserved quickly. It is speculation as to whether this will make any difference to the probability of reanimation. Strongly held views exist on both sides and it is up to the individual to chose. Unless you are willing to move your life to such a situation, then the extra expense (in my opinion) is not worth the difference. Maybe I need correcting on this, but I think that Alcor require cryopreservation members to take an active role in the running of their establishments, especially overseas ones, both personally and financially. -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz my homepage links to Longevity Report, Fractal Report, my singles club for people in Cornwall, music, Inventors' report, an autobio and various other projects: http://geocities.yahoo.com/longevityrpt ----- Original Message ----- > Message #13163 > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 01:15:49 +0100 > From: Cryonics <> > Subject: Comparing > > Thomas Nord > > http://expage.com/page/cryonics Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=13167