X-Message-Number: 13469 From: Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 19:29:42 EDT Subject: funding etc. Rudi Hoffman raised some points that could bear further discussion, even though this is well worn ground. First, Rudi notes that Alcor's patient care fund is over $1million and growing. For the benefit of newcomers, CI does not have a segregated patient care fund, but our equivalent resources are also well over a million, and growing. We also have the ability, in a crunch, to hunker down and operate entirely with volunteer personnel and very low overhead. Second, on alternatives to life insurance funding. (a) CI has an approved form of Revocable Living Trust, through which many types of asset can be used for funding. Also, bank accounts or brokerage accounts or mutual fund accounts can often be labeled TOD (Transfer On Death) with CI as beneficiary, using standard forms. (b) Subject to individual evaluation and negotiation, we can accept a pledge of real estate. In the case of two elderly people whose only substantial asset is their home, we can arrange for the survivor to retain residence for life. (c) Ordinarily, a last will and testament cannot be used for primary funding, because of the delays and uncertainties of probate. Again, exceptions can be made, subject to individual evaluation and negotiation. (d) In a FEW cases, we can accept part payment in kind-i.e., we can credit work done for us against the suspension fee. Someone working at home with a computer could build up credit. Or someone who becomes qualified to do recruitment for us could be paid commissions from membership fees-again, very uncommon but possible. (e) There are a couple more initiatives that are not yet ready for disclosure. And additional suggestions are welcome. Important reiterated note: What we CANNOT do is extend credit-i.e., accept instalment payments from relatives on behalf of a patient after death. The reason is simple. If the person's or family's credit is good, banks and other professional lenders are available. If their credit is not good, we would be remiss to accept it, even if we were in the money lending business, which we are not. Third, on the plight of the disadvantaged. Just a day or two ago I received a bitter letter from a young man with a physical affliction who can't afford cryonics. He accused us generically of being "corrupt" and our members of being a selfish elite of "lollipop suckers." I explained that very few of us are rich, and our total numbers are very small, and we probably average no lower in generosity than others, maybe higher. Of course, the question of those better off helping others with cryonics is similar, in principle, to that of the better off helping the worse off in many other ways. But there is indeed a special poignancy in the cryonics case, because it can be seen as reserving to ourselves not just the ordinary limited life, but potentially boundless life. And even though every ordinary life ends prematurely and with unrealized potential, it seems worse for those who were dealt a relatively (as well as absolutely) bad hand the first time around. There is some evidence that physically handicapped people are better than average prospects for cryonics recruitment, aside from their financial resources. We need to do more work on this. Robert Ettinger Cryonics Institute Immortalist Society http://www.cryonics.org Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=13469