X-Message-Number: 1349 Newsgroups: sci.cryonics From: (Micheal B. O'Neal) Subject: Cryonics Research (Re: Cryonics Institute VS Alcor) Message-ID: <> References: <rg21v3#@rpi.edu> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:05:41 GMT In article @rpi.edu, (Daniel Franklin Kacher Jr.) writes: > Can anyone outline the difference between these two groups? > I've read Alcor's literature. I've spoken to someone at Alcor. > He said he had a masters in Biochemistry. He claims he's the most > educated fellow there. He also said they are doing zero research due to lack of > funding. How do they expect to advance the field at this rate? > What's IC doing? How can I get a hold of their literature? > > -Dan > Dan, There are three "active" cryonics organizations: Alcor, American Cryonics Society (ACS), Cryonics Institute (CI). Alcor and CI provide their own suspension and long term care services. TransTime (a for profit company) is the primary service provider for ACS. The contact numbers for these organizations (taken from the FAQ part 6) are reproduced below. Alcor Life Extension Foundation 12327 Doherty St. Riverside, CA 92503 (714) 736-1703 & (800) 367-2228 FAX (714) 736-6917 Email: American Cryonics Society (ACS) P.O. Box 761 Cupertino, CA 95015 (408) 734-4111 FAX (408) 973-1046, 24 hr FAX (408) 255-5433 Cryonics Institute (CI) 24443 Roanoke Oak Park, MI 48237 (313) 547-2316 & (313) 548-9549 Trans Time, Inc. 10208 Pearmain St. Oakland, CA 94603 510-639-1955 Email: I encourage you to contact each of these organizations. For what its worth here is my personal "summary" of the research programs of each of these organizations. I should point out, first of all, that no one seems to be working directly on perfecting suspended animation. The problem is too hard and too few funds are available. Instead, cryonics research tends to concentrate on reducing damage to patients. Alcor has the largest suspension program. It is currently doing little or no research, probably due to the strain of intense legal battles it was forced to engage in to ensure its survival. These legal disputes have been successfully concluded. In the past Alcor has been VERY active in: hypothermia experiments (using dogs), perfusate research, patient preparation and patient transport (e.g. designing and building the Portable Ice Bath (PIB) which quickly lowers a patient's body temperature to reduce the time spent in warm ischemia; designing and implementing a system to slowly and evenly cool a patient to dry ice temperature). They have also done some studies on categorizing the damage (at a gross level) done to patients by the cryonics process. CI has contentrated in the past on patient storage research. They have designed and fabricated their own patient storage units, which they claim have very high storage efficiency (very low rates of liquid nitrogen boil off). Recently, they have begun to investigate the efficacy of perfusate solutions to determine, in a general way, how well these solutions prevent ice damage. Their methods appear crude, but the work is interesting. ACS is not directly involved in research. I am unsure of the work being done at TransTime (ACS's primary service provider). BioTime, a company that was formed by some ACS members, has had some success developing organ preservation solutions. These solutions should have direct application to the early phases of the cryonic suspension process. BioTime's solutions are designed to extend the amount of time an organ can be maintained in a viable condition at temperatures above the freezing point of water. Two other researchers to note are Mike Darwin (former Research Director of Alcor) and Greg Fahy. Mike has started a company called BioPreservation to conduct cryonics related research. Greg is a cryobiologist employed by the American Red Cross. He is an expert in organ preservation using vitrification (a very low temperature glass-like state). The aim of Greg's work is indefinite organ storage for transplantation. His work has direct application to cryonics: it promises large scale reductions in the amount of damage done by the cryonics process in the near-term, and may provide a path to reversible suspended animation in the long-term. --- Micheal B. O'Neal Louisiana Tech University Department of Computer Science Ruston, Louisiana 71272 Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=1349