X-Message-Number: 13586
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:09:12 -0500
From: david pizer <>
Subject: Re: CryoNet #13567 - #13578

At 05:00 AM 4/17/00 -0400, CryoNet wrote:

>Dear Fellow Cryonicists and interested parties,


>I share the enthusiasm of many about Dave Pizer's newest incarnation of 
>Many people reading this posting this very moment, however, do not have 
>funding in place to make their suspension a reality.  

When I was more active at Alcor, I found this to be true.

>Dave Pizer, (and I know that because you are fellow business man you already 
>know this), please know that many people may have an opinion about cryonics 
>and community, but on the part of many cryonicists there is an unfortunate 
>lack of "follow through" when it comes to actually putting even relatively 
>small amounts of money to make dreams reality.

>How do I know that there are dilettantes and hypocrites (for lack of better 
>word) who regularly post here? 

>I know this because I have had the opportunity to correspond with quite a
>people who are regular contributors to this board.  These hypocrites have 
>initiated correspondence with me regarding funding.  BUT...THEY have NEVER 
>followed through, with me or other insurance vendors.  I know this through 
>checking with Linda Chamberlain (Alcor) and Andy Zawacki (Cryonics

There at least two ways of looking at this. We can complain about them, for
certainly they are not doing the right thing by putting off their
suspension arrangements; OR we can work hard and patiently to try to help
them get signed up.  

This is one reason (on the short list) why I want to work together with
others to create a cryonics community, to have a place where people can
come and get that final, gentle push into being signed up (there are many
other good reasons why I want the cryonics community to come into being).

I know it is frustrating to see so many people who know about cryonics and
consider themselves cryonicists, but are not signed up, yet.

So a short rant every thousand years is permissible, but only one and then
get back to your objective, charming way of helping people.  :=)  A wise
man once said: You help more flies with honey than vinegar.


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