X-Message-Number: 13624 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 21:18:47 +0900 Subject: re: cryonics community for non-US From: kabu <> Hi, this is Kaburagi. Thank you for many comments for my message. Gurvinder, >Regarding the message from Kaburagi (Japan) I think it >is very difficult for non US people to get citizenship >or work permit in the US. And we cannot wait forever >to get permission. I agree. Canada is easier to migrate from Japan. >I sincerely believe that the only way non US people >can hope to make their cryonic dreams come true >through a cryonics community is to find a place >(country) that will allow us to do this - in the Asian >region. In Asian region, Australia is easser than other country. >If a country (like Mauritius or the Phillipines or any >other country) gives us permission to set up a >community based on cryonics that will be very easy for >people in the Asian region to migrate there. A small >country will also benefit from the inflow of foreign >exchange that these people will bring in along with >more tourism (cryonics related or otherwise). > >I request members like Kaburagi to actively make plans >for a meeting of like minded Asians as soon as >possible so that this idea can be pursued. We can >invite one of the leading experts in the field from >the US to guide us in this venture. Great! >So what are you waiting for. Get in touch all Asians >who believe that we should have our own cryonics >community here in Asia. Send your details to me so >that I can organise the meeting to take place. I sent your message to all members of JCA(Japanese Cryonics Association). Please wait 1 week. JCA is Tokyo-based group, there are almost 10 people. But I think there are more cryonicist in Australia. Does anyone know how many people in cryonics organization in Australia? Raphael, >First, it is not difficult to immigrate as a businessman. I do not know >what is the amount that is needed for that currently. A few years ago it >was $250,000. Since many Japanese take care of their own retirement via >savings, it is probably possible for them to transfer some of these savings >to the USA so as to qualify for this option. >The other option is to apply for immigrant status a few years in advance. >There is always some places reserved for people that apply without any >employment connection. Since very few Japanese try to immigrate to the US, >it may not be difficult to obtain a visa that way if you simply wait 5-10 >years. Your comments are proper. Thank you very much. But both comments are not easy for the average Japanese, I want to seek easier option but it is difficult. Personaly I can immigrate as a bisuness to US, but after retirement it is impossible. Thomas, >One must have a skill as cannot be found in US, as far as I know, so no >masses can take jobs from US citizens. I agree so I am worried. Dave, > >If I lived in Japan, I would either work to change this rule about >cremation, or move. >As Charles Darwin said: "It is not the strongest of the species that >survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." >In other words, change the rules where you live or change *where* you live. I understand what you say, both are difficult for Japanese. But of course we will decide what we have to do, >One of the reasons (and there are many) for this cryonics community is so >some of us who are presently mortal members of a mortal species, can band >together (there is strength in numbers) and make changes towards becoming >immortal. Great! >>We would like to examine the possibility of establishing a legal >>system like this and propose the idea from a faraway country, Japan. > >I am not sure I understand this?? Sorry I mistook, what I would like to establish is business system or business structure, not legal system. >>We would like to join the great plan proposed by you. > >OK, Come on over (in a year or so - I'll keep you posted). Thank you. Kabu. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=13624