X-Message-Number: 13793
Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 09:07:37 -0700
Subject: re: Brain Jumping
From: Ivan Snyder <>

Hello again cryonauts,

I prefer the term cryonauts, since you need not be frozen inorder to be
designated so. NASA calls its astronauts in-training ( though they may
not have been in space ) *astronauts*.

Back to the issue of brain jumping, Mr. Ettinger replied:
>Ivan Snyder (#13784) writes about brain fusion and "identity chips."
>No, he isn't the first to consider such ideas, although I had not heard
of 
>the actual Siamese Twin phenomenon he mentioned, siblings with brains
fused 
>together and (apparently) able to communicate internally.
/
>Certainly it should become possible, through future technology, to allow

>mediated but seemingly direct communication from one person to another,
a 
>kind of telepathy. This will dramatize and intensify the
questions--whether 
>"identity" is shared and so on. There are no current answers--only
opinions, 
>often held with irrational certitude.
/
>Personally, I am very uncomfortable with live (conscious) animal 
>experimentation (which we do not do at CI), and would rather wait for 
>computer simulations where feasible, along with the use of dead animals.
>Robert Ettinger
>Cryonics Institute
>Immortalist Society
>http://www.cryonics.org

Ivan again,
Thank you kindly Mr. Ettinger for your response, I know of your work and
am honored. There was shown x-ray photos of the fused brains of the
twins, and it looked like there was merely contact. It appeared that if
they were separated, both twins would have complete ( or nearly so )
brains. It was most interesting that these twins shared thought. Perhaps
we could learn enough from such studies that we need not animal
experiment. My thread on brain jumping was a demonstration of
feasibility; it may already have taken place. My opinion is that next
level brain jumping as I described may happen sooner that what is
expected to be gained through nanotech. Brain jumping is more
technologically in sight. I urge that we explore this direction. It may
be only ten years away, but of course there will be the setback of the
morality issue against cloning fresh new human bodies to jump into. And,
I must admit, that this would be more creepy than the nanotech
restoration. I suppose that's the crux of it.

Ivan Snyder
Hermosa Beach
California

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