X-Message-Number: 13821 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 00:22:14 -0400 From: "Stephen W. Bridge" <> Subject: Neuro safety and pricing To CryoNet From Steve Bridge June 1, 2000 In respose to: Message #13810 From: "Thomas Nord" <> Subject: Re: Pricing Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 05:38:54 +0200 >"Second: The actual operations involved in getting the patient into cryostasis >are about $33,000. Whole body patients provide $120,000 in funding (about >$70,000 goes into the Patient Care Trust). Neuro patients provide $50,000 >in funding (about $17,000 goes into the Patient Care Trust)." > >Hey, did I miss something? I thought the neuros needed more research etc, or >do they need a lot less due to the slimmer chances? Slimmer chances? That is a big assumption. It may in fact be MORE difficult and expensive to repair and to make young every cell in the aged, cancer-ridden, broken down bodies that many patients will take into the suspension tank. Simpler, perhaps, to concentrate on the brain repair and regrow a fresh body for the patient, probably regrowing the entire body around the repaired brain. We don't know the answer, actually. My guess is that the costs may turn out to be similarly inexpensive per unit -- once the initial incredibly expensive research and planning are done. The pricing factor for what goes into the Alcor Patient Trust is primarily based on liquid nitrogen use. We can fit 4 whole body patients into one Bigfoot storage dewar; but the same unit can hold up to *40* neuropatients. In a full tank, a neuropatient only uses 10% of the nitrogen that a whole body patient does. Based on LN2 alone, we could place only $7,000 in the Trust for each neuropatient; but of course, it isn't that simple. Administrative costs for all patients are the same, and all will need repair and rehabilitation. We also encourage all members to OVERfund their suspensions so we can place even more into the Trust as a cushion. I have double funding myself. For a longer discussion on neurosuspension that I wrote several years ago, please see: http://www.alcor.org/neuro.txt Steve Bridge Alcor Foundation Director Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=13821