X-Message-Number: 14050
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 11:44:55 -0700
From: Mike Perry <>
Subject: Re: 

Here are some thoughts on #14042 (from ).

>Greetings, I've been following this list on and off for a few years. I've 
>seen and read enough (http://www.merkle.com/cryo/) to convince me that 
>cryogenics is a gamble worth taking, I intend to sign up with either Alcor or 
>CI in a few years when I'm 30.

You mean "cryonics" of course. I'd sign up as soon as possible--bad things
can happen before you're 30.

> I'm not a scientist, I'm a financial guy, so 
>most of my questions are about finance. Don't get me wrong, I'll be glad to 
>have a second shot at life, but who whants to be revived with no money and 
>have to work for another 30 years, 

At least I'd much rather do that than be dead--but I agree that poverty's
not the greatest condition and you want to avoid it if possible. For what
it's worth, however, I don't expect even the "poor" in the future will be
that miserable. "Work" will not be what it is today. Quite possibly
automation will accomplish most "jobs" as we know them and people will do
other things for which they will need a period of schooling. Would you like
to be a student again, especially if you could learn at levels beyond what
is possible today? To me that sounds very exciting.


>epecially when a little money put away 
>today can generate a fortune in the furure. 

I have no problem with trying to put away funds--again, it's just not an
overriding issue.

>I know that one of the two, CI I think, said they will give you the remainder 
>of your money when you are revived, but it is prudent to assume that no 
>institution will give you any money unless they are absolutely required to do 
>so. So my first question is, currently what arrangements can I make to put my 
>money in an account or fund so I can retrieve it when I am revived.  
>Obviously burying or hiding my cash is out of the question as paper money 
>will likely be useless in the future and ideally I'd like it to earn interest 
>while I'm suspended. I would be happy with the risk free rate, which is 
>conservative but is as stable as the United States.  The instution which 
>holds my funds for me must also be stable and I must be sure that NO ONE
>can get at the money except me. 

Attempts have been made to provide for such possibilities. The Reanimation
Foundation in Lichtenstein comes to mind. (This was set up by Saul Kent and
Bill Faloon; I think you can find out more about it through the Life
Extension Foundation--check the Web.) 

...

>Has anyone thought about storing away a few objects?  I'm not talking about a 
>car or anything, but I'd at least like a disk of my writings and images.

It's my understanding that Alcor will store things for you in banker's boxes
at an underground location in Kansas. (You have to be signed up with Alcor.)
Check with Linda Chamberlain.

...

>But that leads to another question, burnable CDs only have about a 30 year 
>life, magnetic media even less. 

There are different varieties of CDs, from what I hear. The kind that have
holes in an aluminum-foil substrate, such as are used commercially for music
recording, will last far longer than 30 years if reasonably cared for.
Actually I think that with reasonable care a lot of other media will last
much longer too. But there are possibilities such as storing data as
printouts which would be highly durable and the text could be compacted
using fine print.

Mike Perry

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