X-Message-Number: 14166 From: "Yuri Pichugin" <> Subject: about "Self", a soul Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:15:15 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BFF592.BBA44AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" I have my work about the nature of the Self in Russian (20 typing pages) written in 1979. At present I have no time to translate the article from Russian to English. Here is its abstract. On whole, I disagree with the information paradigm on the nature the Self, or "pure" soul (unfilled soul, soul without content). Dr. Perry and others try to go from objective reality to the phenomenon of the Self (approach "for others"), but without approach "in myself for myself", without introspection, they lost the phenomenon of the proper Self that is the central phenomenon of subjective reality. I develop a non-information paradigm on the nature of the Self. There is a problem: scientists did not discover a material substance of a soul yet, but this does not mean that the substance is not existent. The substantial paradigm of a soul can well explain characteristic features of the real phenomenon of a pure soul (the Self) in subjective reality. Everyone can feel and then "understand" his or her own pure soul just in his or her subjective reality. A soul is not an information, but it is feeling. Therefore computers cannot have souls. I did not adapt my notion of the word "existence" to English, but I think it is the same as a soul, the Self. Abstract of the paper by Yu.I. Pichugin "Concept of "Existence" (To the Problem of Self-consciousness: A Hypothetical Model of the Phenomenon Determining the Quality of Subjectivity of Human Psyche). Only the lower level of human reality and aspect of feeling and self-perception are dealt with in the present paper. Subjective reality and thus I for myself disappear in the sleep without dreams or under deep anesthesia though the brain remains alive. I connect myself with the subjective reality but I don't identify myself with the whole of subjective reality. What is properly my own Self? And what is mine? My body is material mine; my thoughts, feelings, perceptions - are my subjective. They belong to me, I refer them to myself but they are not properly my own Self. To feel what in my subjective world, in me is mine and what is Self proper, an experiment of experiencing, perception of "pure "existence" is carried out. The phenomenon of "pure" (i.e. without any concrete content) being for itself can only be singled out by way of introspection. A difference between "explain the phenomenon to other" (approach for other) and "feel, perceive this phenomenon in my own introspection" (approach for myself) is drawn. Five categories of the phenomenon's characteristic features are presented: I.a) "Existence" or Self for myself is UNITY of perception of my own existence by myself and this existence itself. Being that feels, perceives itself alive. Self-perceiving being. Being for itself. This being is open directly to the Self and is not manifested as adequately for other; b) Inability of "existence" to materialize; c) Singularity. Uniquity. Inimitability. Irreplacability. Impossibility to copy; d) Singleness. "Monadability". Indivisability. Separateness. II. "Existence" is an attribute, unity and form of subjective reality. "Existence" is inseparable from essentiality of diversity of contents of subjective reality but at the same time it is impossible to unite with it. "Existence" is a minimum of subjective reality, my self as proper me. "My proper Self" unlike the diversity of "mine" cannot be removed, replaced, changed: otherwise everything, all my subjective reality will disappear for myself. Because "the point", "the axis" round which my subjective reality rotates will disappear. III. a) Constancy, invariability, immutability. During the whole life, during all the changer there is something in the person that absolutely never changes for this person, "remains the same" - it is Self proper, "existence". "Existence" is not fixed by memory. Memory is not necessary for "existence" because "existence" is constant, unchangeable, is an attribute of subjective reality, all the subjective contents are "remembered" on it, it "manifest everything that can be remembered". b) "Existence" is self-sameness, identity which does not require identification. IV. a) Self-sameness of the self to the self; b) Empty self-determineness. In order to feel (but not be conscious of) myself definite and defined I do not need any information or contents from my past life; c) Univercality. Undetermineness by the content, but determineness by the form makes "existence" a universality, i.e. it can accommodate (reflect) any contents and at the same time remain imchanged, not dissolve in it, preserve its determineness as self-certainty and self-sameness. V. a) Inactivity; b) Reflectiveness. Then, a hypothetical model of material that serves as a direct base of "existence" is given. Man as an "existential" system. "Existence" as a particular, substantial element of "existential" system. Other elements of this system have functional character. The purpose of the substance of "existence" is transmission, transfer of information to the brain's control elements. However, evidently, this substance does not produce or process information. 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