X-Message-Number: 14409 From: Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 19:13:36 EDT Subject: Update on remaining work? Greetings All: I have at last digested Paul Wakfer's update and the responses it set off, and developed another set of questions, if everyone is not too tired to answer them. The reason I'm behind, BTW, is that the unmoderated newsgroup deteriorated to teeny-porn postings and for reasons unknown it took several tries to get subscribed here. Well, two years ago vitrification solutions were unsatisfactory and it was estimated to require $10 million and about ten years to perfect whole-body preservation. Now (per Paul) all the major breakthroughs have been made, fortuitously at very little cost. So what will the new cost be? (I realize the $10 million was a very round number. But can it be refined -- if the new best-guesstimate now is in fact less, it makes the plan more attractive. Obviously some wealthy entity should become interested somewhere between ten million dollars and twenty-seven cents...) And what remains to finish the job? Is it mainly proving that brain tissue functions after immersion in vitrification solution and freezing and thawing, and is the next step full brains and then slices of other tissues and then full organs -- and then, of course, organisms. Or? What is the timetable, what are the costs? Has anyone been inspired by the time and cost saving exploits of Craig Ventor? Can automation techniques cut the costs way down? Might it be better to rethink plans in terms of the latest techniques than to try to raise money? (That's what Ventor did, and cut the genome completion from something like 15 years (or five years from when he started) and five or ten billion to something like ten months and 0.2 billion. The Government people he beat were not exactly slouches -- they used the best techniques available when they started ten years earlier, but Ventor used the best from the time he started, just a few years later, and he annihilated them. The more plan details and research needs are published, the more likely someone, some sophomore biology student somewhere, will make a suggestion that cuts time and costs in half. Or so we may hope... Cheers, Alan Mole Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=14409