X-Message-Number: 14526
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 10:24:31 -0400
From: Paul Wakfer <>
Subject: The Purpose of this List

From the blurb sent to all new subscribers to CryoNet (presumably
composed by Kevin Brown):

CryoNet Information for New Subscribers

Cryopreservation (cryonic suspension) is an experimental procedure
people who can no longer be kept alive with today's medical abilities
are preserved at low temperatures for treatment in the future.

The cryonics mailing list (CryoNet) is a forum for topics related to
cryonics, which include technical reports of cryonic suspensions,
low temperature biology, biochemistry of memory, legal status of
and cryopreserved people, new research and publications, conferences,
mass media coverage of cryonics, local cryonics group meetings, and
even philosophy of identity.

Since current CryoNet posters have chosen to disregard this stated
purpose (the others having already long ago unsubscribed, or being
silent sufferers), I would suggest to Kevin that he ought to rewrite it
if he does not wish to appear guilty of dishonesty or exaggeration at
the least. Either that or someone needs to act as moderator to see that
the above stated purpose is upheld, and the censored posts can go to a
new list called "cryonics.club.talk".

Since I believe there is little likelihood of either change denoted
above, since I have little time/desire for "talk", and since there has
been no apparent benefit for my research fund-raising efforts from the
many hours which I spent posting to CryoNet and then defending my
viewpoints and my character from attacks of various kinds, I have today
unsubscribed to CryoNet. My fiancee (soon to be wife) and life-partner,
Kitty will remain subscribed and will inform me of anything interesting
(related to cryonics per se) which appears on the list.

I have often thought that I greatly suffer (psychologically in the short
run) because of my inability to deceive myself about the realities of
life, about the vast differences in worldview of others from that of
mine, and about the objective prospects for living with vitality beyond
120 years of age. As my mother used to state after she became an
agnostic, "I sometimes wish that I could have that simple faith in God
which I had when I was a child". OTOH, I am pleased that I can see so
clearly, and that I continue to make my utmost effort to effect my
purposes, since then I will never feel deep regret (at the end of my
life, if such should come), that I did not do the most that I could to
avoid that result.
I very sincerely wish you all the best in your empathetic kinship and
communal dreaming. If the posts on CryoNet should ever become
predominantly in tune with Kevin's description above, then I may decide
to resubscribe.

-- Paul --

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