X-Message-Number: 14599 Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 13:08:09 +0200 From: David Stodolsky <> Subject: Natural Ethics? I will argue for a "transcendent," natural religion that would be adopted as obvious by all advanced civilizations. Religion is defined as a belief system assuming dependence on a power superior to natural law. The belief system will give guidelines for ethical behavior. Are we limited to this Universe? If the "we" is human beings, then it seems we are limited to this reality/universe. But if the "we" is a transcendent intelligence of which humanity is or can be a part of, then all bets are off. We regard our physical laws as an instance of all possible realities, which we just happen to have due to the conditions at the moment of formation of our Universe. It may be possible to create new universes with different physical laws: http://www.transhuman.com/mirrors/www.aleph.se/Trans/Global/Omega/baby.txt and it is argued that successful industrial civilizations will eventually create black holes (baby universes). See "Possible Implications of the Quantum Theory of Gravity, An Introduction to the Meduso-Anthropic Principle" by Louis Crane. http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/hep-th/9402104 This is a nontechnical paper about how the activities of technological civilizations could influence the evolution of baby universes. The Meduso-Anthropic Principle refers to certain life forms which are vastly different at different stages of development, such as corals and jelly fish. In this case a universe is a "meduso" stage which gives rise to the "anthropic" stage, intelligent life, which in turn produces new universes, and so on. Thus, intelligent life transcends physical law in the cosmos as a whole. Our Universe could be a black hole in an other universe created by intelligent life there. This should induce a reverence for intelligent life! The guideline for behavior we can derive from this is that humanity better develop the ability to produce black holes, if we want to function as first class citizens of the cosmos. This is a non-trivial task, that will take a while. One approach is to capture the entire output of the Sun and redirect the energy to a sphere of ultra-high energy lasers. They would fire at the same time and a black hole would appear at the beam-crossing point. Black holes make ideal power sources, all matter dumped into them is converted to energy. Now, where do we get that spare Sun? (OK, I know you are thinking: Where is the speculative part? :-) Could we even play a role in production or stabilization of our own Universe? That is, be crucial actors in a "loop" of universes including our own? Now we are getting speculative, but "On a General Class of Wormhole Geometries" (DeBenedictis & Da) gives "an example which demonstrates how multiple closed universes may be connected." http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/gr-qc/0009072 dss -- David S. Stodolsky, PhD PGP: 0x35490763 Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=14599