X-Message-Number: 14656
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:45:59 -0400
From: Sabine Atkins <>
Subject: Your opinion please

Hello all!

My name is Sabine, since last year my Mother and I are members of the
Cryonics Institute, and so far I've just been a lurker on this list.

I'm also (although I'm living in the US now) member of the German
Transhumanist Group DE:Trans. This group had a member who is very
interested in making cryonics more popular in Germany. So far so good. 
However, this man now has chosen methods which jeopardize what DE:Trans
wants to accomplish. What DE:Trans wants is: Informing people
scientifically about cryonics, seeking possibilities to found a Cryonics
Organization in Germany and  helping people setting up contracts with
American Cryonics Organizations. 
Instead the former member has founded the "Group of the Eighth Day of
Creation"; he thinks a religious group would succeed in making cryonics
more known to the public and overcoming legal barriers. So far, (as I
understand) there are laws in Germany against cryonic suspension on
German soil, but it is possible that German cryonics patients can be
sent to the US by German local funeral directors. I have talked to an
employee of a German funeral director about this.

But DE:Trans and also I do not think that founding a church for cryonics
will have the right results. In fact, we feel that this will be very
counterproductive. The founder of the "Group of the Eigth Day of
Creation" has left DE:Trans - and has accused its members for not doing
anything regarding cryonics.

What is your opinion?

DE:Trans is interested in working closer together with American Cryonics
Organizations. Do you see possibilities for this?

Best wishes + long life!
-- 
Sabine Atkins -- http://sabine.posthuman.com/
Director, Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence
              -- http://singinst.org/
Member of Extropy Institute, DE:Trans, Cryonics Institute

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