X-Message-Number: 1470 Date: 19 Dec 92 01:56:53 EST From: STEPHEN BRIDGE <72320.1642@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Various politics This is a reposting of message #1468 with errors fixed and additional text. Steve Bridge. ********************************** >From Steve Bridge My deepest apologies. My posting yesterday (MSG #1468) had some electronic flaws in it, which caused a few sentences to be dropped and, at least on the copy bounced back to me, dropped the ending and made it hard to access Perry Metzger's wonderfully calm message #1469. I am re-posting this. Please also note two major additions re: points brought up by Keith Henson. As a warning to e-mail posters, be cautious when you attempt to use your home software to access your e-mail using someone else's machine away from home. One little glitch and you may be lost, since you aren't using your normal settings and you probably didn't bring your rescue capability with you. ********************************************** Alcor members, friends, non-friends, and stunned onlookers: I am Steve Bridge, President-elect (after January 22, 1993, President) of Alcor. For the past week I have been here in Riverside, interviewing Alcor staff about their jobs, discussing the problems and needs of cryonics, and learning about the job from Carlos Mondragon. I have been deeply impressed with the amount of cooperation from all staff, and especially of Carlos's commitment to make this transition (no doubt a painful one for him) go smoothly. There is an understandable amount of staff apprehension about the new situation, about my abilities, and about the kinds of changes I might bring to this job. But each and every staff member is prepared to do the best job they can in teamwork with whomever is President. This is admirable and bodes well for the future of Alcor. I cannot say the same about some of the recent postings on this net. I am greatly disappointed in some of the complete irrationality put on recently from Scott Herman and (most surprisingly) from Lola McCrary. Lola's phrase "or from your jail cell" in reply to Saul Kent marked a new low in bitter slams from sane people. And then there is Scott Herman's letter. As much as I want to include the largest number of people in Alcor and as much as I am willing to work with people of different opinions and personalities, I am still at a loss to understand how Scott's head could have been twisted so wrongly. He is angry at the changeover in management and so he invents plots under every carpet and murder in every eye. Scott has met me exactly twice, for a total of perhaps 30 minutes, some five minutes of which included direct conversation. He cannot know my thoughts, my management abilities, my opinions, or my commitment to cryonics. He certainly cannot know whether or not I have to get permission from Saul Kent to "take a dump." This notion that I am somehow beholden to Saul for getting me this wonderful (low-pay, high stress, life-disrupting, romance-reducing, risk-taking, insanity-putting-up-with) job and that I will dance to his tune no matter what, is a fairy tale, with Saul as the wicked witch and with me as poor Jack lost in the woods. I am an individual. I have been a cryonicist for 16 years and I have been influenced by any number of people, including some currently in suspension. Those of you with short- time involvement in cryonics or with short memories may not know that over that 16 year period I have had strong disagreements with Saul Kent, Mike Darwin, Brenda Peters, etc. on any number of subjects, and I have had agreements and cooperation with Carlos Mondragon, Keith Henson, Hugh Hixon, Dave Pizer, etc. This is NOT a case of blind obediance, folks. Here I must admit some irritated amusement at suggestions that to be a really good President I should now completely ignore all of the suggestions of anyone who *wanted* me to be President of Alcor and ONLY pay attention to the suggestions of those who did NOT want me to be President. Pretty peculiar, huh? Would anyone do that? Seriously, would anyone else try as hard as I have been trying to learn what people on BOTH sides have to say? Some more things that disturb me about Scott's letter: --- Keith Henson's original letter (which Saul was replying to) was only written to the Board and to Saul. He did not post it on the open network (unless my e-mail is even more messed up than I think). Saul's letter was only written (as far as I know) to the Board and to Keith. I do not believe he posted it on the open network. Yet Scott, without Saul's permission, posted Saul's letter. I recall an earlier series of arguments about this kind of unauthorized posting last summer which led to some very ruffled feathers. I hope we can ALL refrain from ever doing that again. *** [NOTE: to second posting. Keith tells me I may be off base here, since both he and Saul labelled their letters as "open," which in Keith's interpretation means that posting to the network is OK. Comments are welcome on this issue. In my own case, when I write a letter -- if I want it posted, I will post it myself. I have written letters that in one sense were "open", i.e., I didn't mind people reading and discussing them, but which I DID NOT feel were appropriate for the open network. I much prefer this sort of thing to be private or in the POLITICS file -- although I despair of that ever happening again.] *** Keith's letter to the Board (which Saul was responding to) was, in my personal interpretation, a gloom+doom letter which added nothing positive to my knowledge or preparedness for being president. I told Keith so, privately -- the way I prefer to discuss negatives. Fortunately, Keith usually writes more useful stuff, included a fine fund-raising letter which he spent several days on recently. More examples are easy to find. I hope that Keith and all of the other Board Members will recognize that there is no benefit in me failing at the job of President. I will need the support and advice of all eight other Directors, plus all of the Alcor suspension members that each of you like and those which you may not like. Saul's message to Keith basically was to support Steve or to leave the Board. I would modify that somewhat, to all Directors, "Support Alcor or leave the Board." I recognize that sometimes Directors may believe they are supporting Alcor by opposing some position or decision of mine, just as some Directors opposed some decisions or actions by Carlos. Good; I can deal with that. Sometimes I will certainly be wrong and they will be right. I am NOT calling for Board changes right now. That may change if I see that some Director is refusing to participate or constantly opposes every change I want, without good reason. I do not suppose that the current nine Directors are likely to behave that way. It is possible that at the next Board election in September I will see other members that I think would make better Directors than some of the current ones. There is nothing wrong with that. After all, none of the current Directors received more than 6 votes at the last election. *** [Another addition to the second posting: Keith has also suggested to me that, while the above paragraph is not a call for his resignation, it is certainly not a ringing declaration of support either. It is true that there is a certain amount of "weasel wording" there, at least partly in an attempt to avoid something like George Bush's "No new taxes!" promise. But it is also true that, under Alcor's bylaws, a Director may be removed AT ANY TIME by a majority vote of the Board. In essence, all Directors are under probation at all times. My personal feeling is that this seems like an unstable situation and that once a Board has been selected, the members should have to work in that situation for whatever term the members are elected for. I think that a situation where Directors are elected for a specific term and then could only be removed by a 2/3 or 3/4 majority would be preferrable. Finally, I should think everyone would recognize it is only natural that I am not giving Keith a ringing recommendation just yet. After all, he did not want me to become President and he has not yet given me much of a recommendation either. A period of observation, discussion, jockeying for position, and negotiation should be expected.] *** --- Scott writes "It takes 5 votes to manipulate the Board." This shows such a degree of hate and anger that it obliterates Scott's understanding of how organizations work. The principle of majority vote is not "manipulation;" it is ORDER. "5 votes" is how action gets passed. The only other choices are degrees of dictatorship and chaos. I will no doubt be ending many of many messages now with pleas for cooperation, understanding, effort and ... donations. Make it so. :-) Steve Bridge Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=1470