X-Message-Number: 14850 From: Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 12:36:32 EST Subject: sideline businesses In Message #14839, "D. den Otter" <> reiterates his advocacy of a new full-service European cryonics organization, and also suggests that cryonics organizations should go into sideline businesses, including MLM (multi-level marketing) for income. First, I still think that, on a near-to-intermediate term outlook, it would be foolhardy for Europeans to rely on a new European organization. It makes much more sense for individuals there to join an existing organization, and then, if they wish, also pursue the goal of European full service, either through a new and separate organization or through a European branch of an existing organization. But right now I want to focus on the idea of sideline businesses. This has often been suggested, and in fact Alcor is already in at least one sideline business, viz., the real estate business. As I understand it, Alcor has in interest in the entity that owns the building in which it leases space, the remainder being leased to other tenants. Apparently this has been very successful so far, owing to Dave Pizer's expertise and guidance. In terms of financial results to date, it has been superior to CI's policy of owning its property free and clear--no mortgage, no debt, no landlord. Nevertheless, the real estate business is just another business, and any future venture might or might not be successful. More importantly, any sideline business might have the potential for conflicts of interest, which should by all means be avoided. How about partly overlapping businesses, such as sperm banking? Again it's just another business, despite the overlap, with plenty of competition and a potential for conflicts of interest. One can make a case for it, but it certainly isn't clear-cut. If an individual, or a consortium, wants to start a business and allocate part of the profit to a cryonics organization, that's fine. But nothing new is involved; this has always been possible, and to some extent has always been done. As for Mr. den Otter's statement that existing sources of revenue are inadequate, I suggest he review Cryonics Institute's financial statements over the years. We are not only holding our own, but gaining. None of this is intended to disparage or discourage new initiatives. New ideas, or old ideas in new hands, certainly have the possibility of gain. But newness for its own sake has no special merit, and risks loss of money and effort. We can't just say, "If it aint broke, don't fix it." Something that isn't broken could still be improved, maybe greatly improved. But I would strongly advise caution on the part of newcomers, and a study of history. Robert Ettinger Cryonics Institute Immortalist Society http://www.cryonics.org Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=14850