X-Message-Number: 15049 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:01:30 -0800 From: Lee Corbin <> Subject: Seven Positions on Personal Identity In over thirty years of lively disputes about identity, I have found that, along one particular scale, people fall into seven categories: 1. Will travel by space warp, but won't permit disassembly of atoms. He or she objects to disintegration and reassembly of the atoms constituting his or her own person (given, of course, that this has become technologically reliable). This is the most skeptical position of the seven. 2. Will permit teleportation, but only if the same atoms are used. Subject agrees (as always, for suitable reward) to be disintegrated here and later reassembled at a remote location . However the subject forbids disassembly here and reconstitution at a distant location using different atoms. 3. Will teleport, unless there is a delay. Suppose the original at the the point of departure is scanned and the information is used to construct the remote duplicate, but then there is a delay before the original is destroyed. This is not acceptable. The subject anticipates that he or she will experience seeing his or her duplicate emerge from the distant teleporter station, and that this will void the transferral of identity to the remote. The local will then experience disintegration, and that this will mark the actual death of the subject. 4. Will teleport, but finds backups to be useless. Subject finds it a waste of money to get "scanned" for the purpose of getting himself or herself restored in the event of catastrophe. Not long after the scan is complete, the subject exclaims, "That information is me the way I used to be! Were I to die, and that person brought back to life, it wouldn't really be me." 5. Finds backups acceptable, provided that they've had no run time. Subject finds it desirable to keep frozen physical duplicates in storage (in case anything happens to him or her), but only provided that the duplicate, whether physically instantiated or merely kept safe as information, is completely identical to him or her at a particular past instant. In this case, he or she expects to survive physical destruction of the present body, but not if that body has already been reanimated and is having experiences elsewhere. 6. Anticipates future experiences of duplicates, but only one in particular. This is the nearly incoherant "closest continuer" theory. If you must die, but N duplicates of you were made at several points in the past, then you "really are" whichever one of them survives and is the most similar to you. Your soul, or identity, is transferred by hidden celestial machinery into this particular one, but somehow not into any of the others. 7. Logically, but not necessarily emotionally, anticipates all experiences of all duplicates past or future, near or far. By subscribing to "the faith of a physicist", the subject believes that any physical object at any coordinates whatsoever is the same person that he or she is, provided only that the physical process running in the object closely enough resembles him or her. The extreme difficulty of sitting across a table and watching your physical duplicate and honestly being able to exclaim, "There goes I, by the grace of God", or of being able to say with a straight face, "Logically, I anticipate the dinner that I had last night as much as I anticipate tonight's repast", prevents almost everyone from going to level seven. My own belief is that nonetheless, countless thought experiments lead one inexorably to level seven, and to a recognition that the other concepts of personal identity are outmoded legacies of evolution which do not sustain careful scrutiny. Lee Corbin Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=15049