X-Message-Number: 1511 Date: 24 Dec 92 21:14:49 EST From: "Steven B. Harris" <> Subject: CRYONICS & the Feedback Problem <continued from previous message about barbiturates> Our competitor cryonics organizations, by the way, have publicly pointed out the legal risks of using barbiturates, and do not use them. Surprise, their suspendees look just like ours, despite the short-cut. That's the one big problem with cryonics, don't you know: no feedback. Here's an analogy I like: suppose that a surgeon on Earth is doing an operation on a sick person on the moon, via virtual reality and waldos ("telepresence"). It's pretty hard, since there is an almost 3-second time delay to worry about. Move the scalpel, and you don't see the result for three seconds-- very difficult. Now: imagine the surgeon operating on someone on Mars. Now the time delay is (at least) 8 minutes, so you have to do an entire ensemble of surgical movements, then wait a while to see the effect. Even more difficult. Finally, imagine you're trying to do a remote operation on someone on a planet of the nearest star, 4.3 light years away. Now you have to do the entire procedure from start to finish with no feedback at all, and then sit back and hope you did not leave out a stroke. Furthermore, note that under such circumstances it's nearly impossible for many years to tell the difference between the job of a master surgeon and the job of a nitwit, screw-up, or imposter, because there is no feedback from the patient to tell you. Now: what do you get when you have to do this kind of remote surgical operation on a patient that is not 4.3 light-years, but rather *100* light-years away? Answer: you get something a little bit like cryonics..... Steve Distribution: >INTERNET: Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=1511