X-Message-Number: 15271
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 23:08:10 +0000
From: Phil Rhoades <>
Subject: Primitive people/environmental devastation

>Message #15260
>From: 
>Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 01:25:24 EST
>Subject: Re: CryoNet #15242 - #15250
>
>In a message dated 1/4/2001 2:01:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> writes:
>
><< Charles, that it speculation at best (and probably by people who have a
>  vested interest to say things like that).
>   >>
>Sense, my friend... do not... PLEASE DO NOT make the rest of us (I an
>interested reader of this mail-list, whom only shows up from time to time)
>confused about what it is that you are "specifically" saying. Sorry, but
>(with great respect for your most likely greater knowledge) I do not
>understand what you people are talking about on the mailing list.

The stuff that I and a couple of other people were arguaing about is a 
little off-topic to Cryonics but that comment was made by me in response to 
Charles' comment:

>There is every evidence that
>primitive people would cause more environmental devastation if they were
>empowered to do so,

What Charles is getting at is a fairly well accepted idea that a lot of 
"primitive" peoples caused a lot of environemental damage and loss of 
biodiversity - what I was getting at is that modern technology and industry 
has accelerated this to a much higher degree.

Charles is saying (I think) that if these "primitive" peoples then get 
access to modern technology then they will cause a lot more damage too - I 
am disputing this.  Australian Aboriginals have/had a closer connection to 
the land they live on (it is literally part of their own existence) as I 
understand Native Americans do/did - compared to Europeans (who treat the 
land as a commodity).

I find it hard to imagine that this spiritual connection could be 
voluntarily so dismembered. I am not romanticising this way of life - it is 
just fact as far as I can see (I have an atheist view myself).

R&LL,

Phil.

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