X-Message-Number: 15271 Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 23:08:10 +0000 From: Phil Rhoades <> Subject: Primitive people/environmental devastation >Message #15260 >From: >Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 01:25:24 EST >Subject: Re: CryoNet #15242 - #15250 > >In a message dated 1/4/2001 2:01:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, > writes: > ><< Charles, that it speculation at best (and probably by people who have a > vested interest to say things like that). > >> >Sense, my friend... do not... PLEASE DO NOT make the rest of us (I an >interested reader of this mail-list, whom only shows up from time to time) >confused about what it is that you are "specifically" saying. Sorry, but >(with great respect for your most likely greater knowledge) I do not >understand what you people are talking about on the mailing list. The stuff that I and a couple of other people were arguaing about is a little off-topic to Cryonics but that comment was made by me in response to Charles' comment: >There is every evidence that >primitive people would cause more environmental devastation if they were >empowered to do so, What Charles is getting at is a fairly well accepted idea that a lot of "primitive" peoples caused a lot of environemental damage and loss of biodiversity - what I was getting at is that modern technology and industry has accelerated this to a much higher degree. Charles is saying (I think) that if these "primitive" peoples then get access to modern technology then they will cause a lot more damage too - I am disputing this. Australian Aboriginals have/had a closer connection to the land they live on (it is literally part of their own existence) as I understand Native Americans do/did - compared to Europeans (who treat the land as a commodity). I find it hard to imagine that this spiritual connection could be voluntarily so dismembered. I am not romanticising this way of life - it is just fact as far as I can see (I have an atheist view myself). R&LL, Phil. - Philip Rhoades Pricom Pty Limited (ACN 003 252 275) GPO Box 3411 Sydney NSW 2001 Australia Mobile: +61:0411-185-652 Fax: +61:2:8923-5363 E-mail: Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=15271