X-Message-Number: 15311 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:25:03 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Platt <> Subject: Wakfer/Ettinger I didn't bother to reply to your quote of Wakfer because I wasn't addressing anything about Wakfer, I was addressing statements made by Robert Ettinger which seemed misleading. I am under no obligation to broaden my interests by responding to text by another person that you feel like placing before me. I mean, if I decide to quote Mike Darwin, would you feel an obligation to respond to that? If Wakfer was a co-worker of mine, there might be some slight tangential relevance, but in fact I have often had my own disagreements with Paul, he lives in Canada, and I haven't communicated directly with him in months. As far as I'm concerned, you might just as well quote the Pope about cryonics and ask me to comment. So, I don't see the relevance of the Wakfer post. And as for Alcor, I have already made it clear that the positive spin which Alcor puts on its news does bother me. That's why I suggested an independent news source would be a good idea. Maybe you didn't read what I wrote. My posts about your statements about vitrification were concerned with just that: Your statements about vitrification. Not Wakfer's statements, and not Alcor's statements. Your statements. Why do you try to change the subject? And now you claim that you never never suggested that Alcor's vitrification solution might be more toxic than the CI glycerol solution. You invite me to go back and check what you wrote, but, typically, you DON'T CITE IT. Should I spend the next happy hour digging through the CryoNet archives for the relevant phrase? If you had a real interest in clarification, you would CITE your phrase and explain in what way it was misunderstood-not only by me, but by two scientists who read it and both interpreted it as I did. However I suggest your concern is not to clarify, your concern is to obfuscate. And this is what I have found hard to deal with all along. --CP Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=15311