X-Message-Number: 15325 From: Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:47:09 EST Subject: INC announcement Although I am not on the mailing list, I have received a copy of a message from Paul Wakfer of the INC, which includes a progress report on the (rat) hippocampal slice cryopreservation project. It does not yet appear to be on the INC web site. The gist of it is that, since the Asilomar conference, new CPAs have been tried and viability by the potassium/sodium criterion is now up from 53% to 66%, which is the same as for vitrified/rewarmed rabbit kidneys by 21CM. That's good news--congratulations to the people involved. At the same time, let me note a couple of qualifiers. As usual, this is in part my effort to make sure I understand the message. All of us former teachers know that a very good way to check whether you understand something, or to learn what needs clarification, is to try to explain it to someone else. At one point the progress report, signed by the director of research, says that the thrust of the experiments [since Asilomar] has been toward "more sophisticated" vitrification solutions, and that some changes in treatment and evaluation procedures were needed,slowing progress. At another point it says that the researchers expect in January to use an improved vitrification solution, and in February still another. This seems slightly confusing. The report contains some cautions. One is that non-penetrating cryoprotectants, requiring time to diffuse into the slices, necessitated using the highest concentrations of cryoprotectant for longer times in order for vitrification to occur. Since this was done with thin slices, it seems clear that the problem with whole rat brains, let alone human brains, would be compounded. Another caution is that, although the 66% recovery is believed to apply to every cell and is not just an average number, longer culture times, up to 8 hours of incubation, did not improve the K/Na assay. The workers had hoped that cells 66% functional would, over time, repair themselves and recover fully, but that has not yet been observed. The lead researcher does emphasize that the combination of "presumably" ending ice damage and also reducing toxicity represents an enormous improvement over previous procedures (with brain slices). Microscopy studies are to follow, and everyone hopes for the best possible outcome. When the results are in and the total situation clarified, then, as many times noted, our intention at CI is to make any useful results available to our members in the most efficient and expeditious way we can manage. Robert Ettinger Cryonics Institute Immortalist Society http://www.cryonics.org Intact rat brains, however, take up cryoprotective agents (CPAs, cryoprotectants) poorly. A brain tissue slice model will eliminate any contribution of the blood brain barrier to this failure of CPA uptake. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=15325